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Here's another instance, refining the delivery of "a bicycle for the human mind": https://youtu.be/NKT5nbEPdfs?t=60 https://youtu.be/NKT5nbEPdfs?t=60. It is a

Here's another instance, refining the delivery of "a bicycle for the human mind": https://youtu.be/NKT5nbEPdfs?t=60 https://youtu.be/NKT5nbEPdfs?t=60. It is a "performance art", like a stand-up comic, an actor, a politician, a presentation, or a congressional hearing. Some people do not want to rehearse as they feel it "empties them". He was known to meticulously practice the delivery of keynotes so he could hit things on time, as if it were a play, if I recall correctly. You can see that there's a good part of storytelling. If you watch Elon Musk videos, there often is repetition on the three things he focused on in college: the internet, multi-planetary life, and sustainable energy. In more recent videos, the narrative has shifted to five things he focused on during college, and an addition of genetics and artificial intelligence made it to the list. This is a bit different, like a git history change, which goes unnoticed by most interviewers. However, people think about a lot of things and nobody would be able to list all their ideas or thoughts, let alone someone like him. One of the best interviewers in the space is Sarah Lacy, in my opinion. She has enough raport with her guests in Pando Monthly videos (there are bout fifty of them, and I invite everyone to watch them), but she doesn't hesitate to invite her guests to better recall the events, timeline, or context... "Yes, but X had invested before and you had replaced so and so on the board at that time, so that must have been before Z". Way better interviews because she has the context, as opposed to someone just looking "just" for an interview. The interviews are really good and dive into decisions founders and VCs took and what had motivated them, etc. Long videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7983B23CA8F80AFE https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7983B23CA8F80AFE All, including short segments from these videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgHogDu1ewdkkWZjfKIuKXQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgHogDu1ewdkkWZjfKIuKXQ One other interview is really good: "The lost interview" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDqQcmVqAm4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDqQcmVqAm4 Here's an "internal" video for NEXT where he explains their strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRBIH0CA7ZU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRBIH0CA7ZU Here's a video of a NEXT brainstorming session in a retreat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kp9cSzbLFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kp9cSzbLFE

laurent92 6y ago
> or a congressional hearing Interesting: He was never summoned by Congress. All the other technical directors have been: Zuckerberg, Gates, Dorsey, even Larry Ellison from Oracle. Maybe having the upper hand in being well-understood and well-spoken, goes as far as to have a smoother relationship with the general public?
- saalweachter 6y ago
  Apple spent most of its existence as a well-known but not particularly dominant company in its fields, which goes a long way to explaining why Congress never took an interest in it. Think back to 2008-9, when Jobs had to step back for health reasons. While Apple had made a solid turn-around and most of the pieces of its future were in place, it was far from the juggernaut it became. The iPhone was coming on like gangbusters, but Blackberry and Nokia were still a thing, Zunes were still a thing...
  - simonh 6y ago
    It was an interesting time. The iPod was a phenomenal success, iPod launch events were media circuses and the cultural as well as commercial success was huge. Yet iPods themselves were really just music players. A more sophisticated Walkman. The iPhone combined the computing flexibility and utility of an Apple computer with the convenience and user friendliness of an iPod. But by 2009 they were still just getting started with it.
- Jugurtha 6y ago
  Tim Cook has been. On a related note, I am convinced that Zuckerberg would have an easier time with these matters with a different haircut.. This is not a personal attack on Zuckerberg, but I think the haircut is damaging his image and makes him less trustworthy than he may be. Joel Kaplan, Myriah Jordan, and their teams may have prepped him well for these hearings (and the famous picture of the talking points left open accidentally-on-purpose is just funny), but he seems to provoke a visceral reaction in people that others do not. Many see Gates, Dorsey, Ellison, etc as CEOs with certain traits, like nerdy, charming, well-spoken, funny/outspoken/brash, etc, but I don't think they assume they are evil. I don't think people would see him and think evil on a video like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--APdD6vejI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--APdD6vejI Again, this is not an attack on physique or on the person, but an observation based on what a lot of comments on these hearings are about. They mostly are about him, not others, drawing comparisons to animals or robots, dehumanizing him, etc. This leads me to think it's a matter of perception and image and I'm wondering what impact the latter would have on the former.
tpmx 6y ago
Seriously, what is this? GPT-3 output? How did you get from Steve Jobs via Musk to spending a very long paragraph on Sarah Lacy/Pando and then pushing their youtube videos? I'm sorry, but this smells like spam.
- Jugurtha 6y ago
  >Seriously, what is this? GPT-3 output? How did you get from Steve Jobs to spending a very long paragraph on Sarah Lacy/Pando and then pushing her youtube videos? Here's how: not all interviews are equal. Some are very good because the interviewer dives deep, and the guest answers the questions and allows themselves to be taken there and open up. I have linked interviews of Steve Jobs and videos that I have considered of value, for example "The lost interview" where he dives in really interesting topics like building product, the ways he looked for venture capital, the differences between sales driven organizations and others, etc. That is someone very interesting sharing his thought process. This naturally lead me to link to other similar videos where guests who have built very interesting products and organizations share similar insights. This kind of videos is rare, as it takes a guest willing to go there, and an interviewer who helps them get there. The Pando list contains a registry of these videos. Think hunter-gatherer vs. agriculture: going around gathering content in the wild, vs having a bunch of it in one place. >I flagged this since I consider it spam. I understand. All the best,
  - tpmx 6y ago
    Well, you succeded in killing the relevant discussion in this sub-thread by means of your bloviation. Congrats.
    - Jugurtha 6y ago
      You succeeded in teaching me a new word, "bloviation"[0]. Thank you. - [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloviation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloviation
- pembrook 6y ago
  The links posted were all very interesting. Great comments like those are the reason why I visit Hacker News. On the other hand, your comment is the one adding nothing to the discussion and derailing the thread.
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laurent92 6y ago

> or a congressional hearing Interesting: He was never summoned by Congress. All the other technical directors have been: Zuckerberg, Gates, Dorsey, even Larry Ellison from Oracle. Maybe having the upper hand in being well-understood and well-spoken, goes as far as to have a smoother relationship with the general public?

saalweachter 6y ago
Apple spent most of its existence as a well-known but not particularly dominant company in its fields, which goes a long way to explaining why Congress never took an interest in it. Think back to 2008-9, when Jobs had to step back for health reasons. While Apple had made a solid turn-around and most of the pieces of its future were in place, it was far from the juggernaut it became. The iPhone was coming on like gangbusters, but Blackberry and Nokia were still a thing, Zunes were still a thing...
- simonh 6y ago
  It was an interesting time. The iPod was a phenomenal success, iPod launch events were media circuses and the cultural as well as commercial success was huge. Yet iPods themselves were really just music players. A more sophisticated Walkman. The iPhone combined the computing flexibility and utility of an Apple computer with the convenience and user friendliness of an iPod. But by 2009 they were still just getting started with it.
Jugurtha 6y ago
Tim Cook has been. On a related note, I am convinced that Zuckerberg would have an easier time with these matters with a different haircut.. This is not a personal attack on Zuckerberg, but I think the haircut is damaging his image and makes him less trustworthy than he may be. Joel Kaplan, Myriah Jordan, and their teams may have prepped him well for these hearings (and the famous picture of the talking points left open accidentally-on-purpose is just funny), but he seems to provoke a visceral reaction in people that others do not. Many see Gates, Dorsey, Ellison, etc as CEOs with certain traits, like nerdy, charming, well-spoken, funny/outspoken/brash, etc, but I don't think they assume they are evil. I don't think people would see him and think evil on a video like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--APdD6vejI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--APdD6vejI Again, this is not an attack on physique or on the person, but an observation based on what a lot of comments on these hearings are about. They mostly are about him, not others, drawing comparisons to animals or robots, dehumanizing him, etc. This leads me to think it's a matter of perception and image and I'm wondering what impact the latter would have on the former.

tpmx 6y ago

Seriously, what is this? GPT-3 output? How did you get from Steve Jobs via Musk to spending a very long paragraph on Sarah Lacy/Pando and then pushing their youtube videos? I'm sorry, but this smells like spam.

Jugurtha 6y ago
>Seriously, what is this? GPT-3 output? How did you get from Steve Jobs to spending a very long paragraph on Sarah Lacy/Pando and then pushing her youtube videos? Here's how: not all interviews are equal. Some are very good because the interviewer dives deep, and the guest answers the questions and allows themselves to be taken there and open up. I have linked interviews of Steve Jobs and videos that I have considered of value, for example "The lost interview" where he dives in really interesting topics like building product, the ways he looked for venture capital, the differences between sales driven organizations and others, etc. That is someone very interesting sharing his thought process. This naturally lead me to link to other similar videos where guests who have built very interesting products and organizations share similar insights. This kind of videos is rare, as it takes a guest willing to go there, and an interviewer who helps them get there. The Pando list contains a registry of these videos. Think hunter-gatherer vs. agriculture: going around gathering content in the wild, vs having a bunch of it in one place. >I flagged this since I consider it spam. I understand. All the best,
- tpmx 6y ago
  Well, you succeded in killing the relevant discussion in this sub-thread by means of your bloviation. Congrats.
  - Jugurtha 6y ago
    You succeeded in teaching me a new word, "bloviation"[0]. Thank you. - [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloviation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloviation
pembrook 6y ago
The links posted were all very interesting. Great comments like those are the reason why I visit Hacker News. On the other hand, your comment is the one adding nothing to the discussion and derailing the thread.

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