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So basically, one can begin slapping together a competitor as soon as Google rolls out a service—because the service is likely to go the way of the Reader in a
by aasasd 6y ago
So basically, one can begin slapping together a competitor as soon as Google rolls out a service—because the service is likely to go the way of the Reader in a few years.
- arcticbull 6y agoIndeed, Google's launch validates a market, creates enthusiasm, and once they shut it down you can be there to catch the users.
- javajosh 6y agoThis is the VC cycle in a nutshell: venture capital does some PoC, business/tech R&D, and when it fails (usually does!) the lessons are still available to others. It's no different even if the (defunct) startup has a patent: IP law doesn't really matter when the IP doesn't have any money behind it.
- londons_explore 6y ago> It's no different even if the (defunct) startup has a patent Not true - VC's are scared of giving money to anything that directly infringes a patent. If the company ever does wildly well, you can be sure whoever bought that patent for cents will be trying to collect millions...
- javajosh 6y agoI don't think VC's care about patents, they care about risk. A patent without any money behind it isn't a risk. A company that isn't making money to steal also isn't at risk. But if you have money, and the patent holder has money, then let the legal fireworks begin, and as a happy side-effect, the patent attorneys get to pay for their kids' college, and maybe an investment property or two.
- thayne 6y ago> IP law doesn't really matter when the IP doesn't have any money behind it. But that IP could end up owned by a patent troll that does have the money to enforce it in court, or at least threaten to do so.
- adfm 6y agoVine lives in a glass jar on the mantlepiece.
- crucialfelix 6y agoGoogle Keep is next. It is neat and simple, though I haven't been using it lately.
- volongoto 6y agoI use Keep, but there are already millions of apps that does what Keep is doing. I don't think there will be a huge vacuum.
- nanoservices 6y agoI actually really like Microsoft ToDo. Your setup can be as simple as you want or as complex as you need it to be!
- mrisoli 6y agoI think it's Google Podcasts, barely any efforts on features for the app, seems like they just made it because there needed to be a podcast app, Keep, while not given much attention by Google, is still easily accessible within Gmail.
- 45ure 6y agoI really hope they don't kill it. Although, I never really recovered from the Red Wedding of Reader. However, I recently convinced myself to use Google Keep; it has a neat implementation of grabbing text from an image and works fairly well. I realise that I will be training the algorithms, and appending data to the already vast collection. It is a trade-off I am willing to accept. I have generally been using it to grab text from labels for ingredients and other products to create my own notes.
- brundolf 6y agoSounds like I better get started on my Stadia clone ;)
- oetnxkdrlgcexu 6y ago"netflix for games" is an incredible value proposition if you have the capital to act on it.
- Razengan 6y agoSo Apple Arcade?
- disgruntledphd2 6y agoI think you need console/pc games to make it work. And microsoft are waaay ahead of you ;)
- Razengan 6y agoWhy? More people have phones now than PCs or consoles, and Apple Arcade also includes iPads, Macs and Apple TV.
- jonny_eh 6y agoYou'll also be competing with Amazon (Luna), Nvidia (Geforce Now), Microsoft (Xbox Game Pass), and Sony (Playstation Now). Plus other small players that are much farther along, like Shadow.
- spijdar 6y agoIf you think about it, though none of these except Shadow are "small players naively competing with big business", it still kind of demonstrates the point. Google starts something that is ostensibly a good idea, demonstrates that there is some market, but flops the execution. I don't know what'll happen to Stadia, I'm hesitant to dismiss it just because "lol Google made another thing, surely they'll kill it in a year", but just skimming the news it does seem it'll go the way of Allo and Hangouts and Reader (And G+ ironically)...
- ChuckMcM 6y agoI think that is a reasonable take, it my more accurately say to both founders and investors that time / money invested in doing something Google is already doing is not a "bad bet"[1] [1] Caveat search engines? Who knows when that house of cards will finally collapse.
- ColinHayhurst 6y ago[1] only "knuckleheads" would take that one on ;) Come join the new club in town https://knuckleheads.club/ https://knuckleheads.club/ - your immense knowledge and experience can help the cause a lot.
- escape_goat 6y agoThat might be true, but the risk is always that Google can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
- dang 6y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26581736 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26581736.