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The recent master stroke of big pharma is making you think that being anti this vaccine, makes you guilty by association with all anti-vaxers. I've done my res

The recent master stroke of big pharma is making you think that being anti this vaccine, makes you guilty by association with all anti-vaxers. I've done my research and understand risk profile, I don't need a beta version of vaccine for a disease that I have essentially zero chance of having any trouble recovering from. If you think you need it and are below 40, you don't understand the risks. EDIT: For the record, if I have kids they will be vaccinated. With vaccines that have been proven through multi year trials.

bob33212 6y ago
This is like saying that you will never buy a new car because you don't have years of data to prove the car was built correct and is safe. There is a risk that a new car has a problem that only shows up after 20k miles, but the people who approved the new car have a lot of experience approving cars and a track record of not missing major safety issues.
- IshKebab 6y ago
  Good car analogy. Though it slightly breaks down in that some cars have turned out to have problems (hence lemon laws), whereas as far as I know no vaccines have ever had any bad long term side effects.
belltaco 6y ago
How many anti-(this vax) people do you think truly understand the risk reward balance? Anyway, younger people have started being more affected, perhaps by new strains. https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/americas/brazil-youth-covid-19-intl-latam/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/americas/brazil-youth-covid-1... And the vaccine do reduce transmission, although we don't know by how much yet, so if you're younger than 40 and getting vaccinated then you're protecting folks that are vulnerable.
miloignis 6y ago
There are multiple factors going into the decision to get the vaccine or not, but "If you think you need it and are below 40, you don't understand the risks." is patently false. A large reason to get the vaccine is to massively lower your chance of giving it to someone else, family member or stranger, who might not be as prepared to fight it as you are. There's also a significant population under 40 with risk factors like heart conditions, asthma, and obesity. Additionally, I've heard there's some evidence that even if you are younger and recover, it might do longer term damage, though we'll see how that plays out. At least seems extremely likely to me that the vaccine is safer than the virus, and I'd be interested in how you came to the opposite conclusion. As a late 20s man with asthma and vulnerable family members, I jumped at the chance get the vaccine.
- SCNP 6y ago
  I'd like to add just one more point. Getting the vaccine and reducing your personal communicability helps the people who are vulnerable and unable to get the vaccine. There will be a small percentage but large number of people that are unable to take the vaccine due to allergies or being immuno-compromised. Getting the vaccine helps them, too.
dTal 6y ago
>a disease that I have essentially zero chance of having any trouble recovering from. You sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID

bob33212 6y ago

This is like saying that you will never buy a new car because you don't have years of data to prove the car was built correct and is safe. There is a risk that a new car has a problem that only shows up after 20k miles, but the people who approved the new car have a lot of experience approving cars and a track record of not missing major safety issues.

IshKebab 6y ago
Good car analogy. Though it slightly breaks down in that some cars have turned out to have problems (hence lemon laws), whereas as far as I know no vaccines have ever had any bad long term side effects.

belltaco 6y ago

How many anti-(this vax) people do you think truly understand the risk reward balance? Anyway, younger people have started being more affected, perhaps by new strains. https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/americas/brazil-youth-covid-19-intl-latam/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/americas/brazil-youth-covid-1... And the vaccine do reduce transmission, although we don't know by how much yet, so if you're younger than 40 and getting vaccinated then you're protecting folks that are vulnerable.

miloignis 6y ago

There are multiple factors going into the decision to get the vaccine or not, but "If you think you need it and are below 40, you don't understand the risks." is patently false. A large reason to get the vaccine is to massively lower your chance of giving it to someone else, family member or stranger, who might not be as prepared to fight it as you are. There's also a significant population under 40 with risk factors like heart conditions, asthma, and obesity. Additionally, I've heard there's some evidence that even if you are younger and recover, it might do longer term damage, though we'll see how that plays out. At least seems extremely likely to me that the vaccine is safer than the virus, and I'd be interested in how you came to the opposite conclusion. As a late 20s man with asthma and vulnerable family members, I jumped at the chance get the vaccine.

SCNP 6y ago
I'd like to add just one more point. Getting the vaccine and reducing your personal communicability helps the people who are vulnerable and unable to get the vaccine. There will be a small percentage but large number of people that are unable to take the vaccine due to allergies or being immuno-compromised. Getting the vaccine helps them, too.

dTal 6y ago

>a disease that I have essentially zero chance of having any trouble recovering from. You sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID