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I wonder if/when they will release more powerfull version
by mciancia 6y ago
I wonder if/when they will release more powerfull version
- fsflover 6y agoHere you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 https://puri.sm/products/librem-5.
- solarkraft 6y agoThis is about the Librem 5 (not from Pine64), which is multiple times the price. Cool if the PinePhone didn't exist, but against it it doesn't look that good, I would say. A Pinephone 2 / Pro wouldn't be that much more expensive. That said: They are funding a lot of phone software development, especially libhandy seems to come ... in handy pretty often.
- fsflover 6y agoIf all you need is more power, Librem 5 should be the perfect choice. Don't you expect powerful hardware to cost more? There is no information when Pinephone 2 arrives and how much it will cost. > Cool if the PinePhone didn't exist, but against it it doesn't look that good, I would say. Yes, it does: https://social.librem.one/@ozmik/105939468751642844 https://social.librem.one/@ozmik/105939468751642844
- hcal 6y agoI've read conflicting reports on how much more powerful it is in practice. I've seen only one direct review that said the Librem is clearly much faster, but I've also seen a few comparisons that show little to no difference in daily use tasks. The problem might be that we don't have a quality comparison yet (or I haven't found it), but I wonder if there is a performance bottle neck in the hardware. Maybe the software is still better optimized for the pine and the Librem will start to pull ahead as more developers get a chance to work on it.
- fsflover 6y agoLibrem 5 has much more powerful hardware regardless of software optimizations: https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827 https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-p.... It just depends on what your "daily use tasks" are.
- ognarb 6y agoIn term of CPU, the hardware is similarly shitty. For the GPU, the Librem 5 has a better GPU. In plasma mobile, the current bottleneck is on the GPU side, so maybe the Librem 5 can offer better performance but I'm not sure the improvements are worth $600 more.
- seba_dos1 6y agoIn practice, the biggest difference comes from RAM speed, which Librem 5 has almost three times as fast as PinePhone. Then, the CPU is clocked at 1.3x the speed and it has twice the L2 cache. eMMC is faster too. The difference in every day usage is easily noticeable even just by how fast applications start and, indeed, the GPU performance difference is drastic: https://social.librem.one/@dos/104767475144787918 https://social.librem.one/@dos/104767475144787918 Recently I've compiled GTK4 on both phones and it took my PinePhone almost twice as long as my Librem 5. Disclaimer: I work for Purism on the Librem 5, although I'm very excited with the PinePhone as well - I'd say it's good for its price.
- josefresco 6y ago$1999 woah https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5-usa/ https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5-usa/
- fsflover 6y agoThis is the made-in-USA edition. How much alternative phones from the USA cost? Standard edition costs $800.
- josefresco 6y agoI get it, I'm all for it. Objectively, it's still a lot of money even for middle class Americans.
- fsflover 6y agoSuch is the cost to produce electronics in America...
- myself248 6y agoI mean, it's not out-of-line compared to other prestige smartphones. This one's just a different kind of prestige. And you're paying for a different kind of organization and effort behind it. Either way, there are enormous numbers of people happy to drop $1000 on a phone, maybe more. It's a lot of money in that my first car was cheaper, sure..
- 5etho 6y agoyou're just lying yourself that you are middle class I see, nothing to be ashamed of to be lower class. I am also lower class. politicians made us this way.
- howlinbash 6y agoI really appreciate your attitude. And I agree with you. Allow me, however, to go one step further. You're 'working' class. You're not 'lower' than anybody else.
- karmakaze 6y agoI'm not quite sure what the destination is with this phone. This particular model seems to be for hobbiests who will use it as a second device for development, or purists who value privacy over all else. I would prefer to pay double or triple for a phone that has all the opensource and privacy goals but also competes in performance and build so it can be my daily driver. I realize that we also want open standards and privacy for the masses but they will be the last group to adopt not the first. If this is the secondary 'dev device' now because the platform isn't complete enough to be a primary, the price point makes sense. Can't wait for when it can be a daily driver. How far can you get with a good phone+contacts (voice calls), sms, and excellent web browser? Pretty far. Other apps are nice but they can be the add-ons.
- WildParser 6y agoWell, it works fine as a phone. With Mobian it is stable enough for me to be a daily driver. When I need performance I usually turn to real computers or specialized gadgets.
- karmakaze 6y agoI guess with the current state of even simple static website/apps we seem to often need performance. I hadn't even thought about compatibility of the web browser. Might any WebKit based browser (with user-agent overrides) be close enough?
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