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Well it turns out that I just installed this addon on Firefox yesterday after hearing about it here or on Reddit. This move does well to reinforce my loyalty t

Well it turns out that I just installed this addon on Firefox yesterday after hearing about it here or on Reddit. This move does well to reinforce my loyalty to Firefox as my main browser. Hopefully it has the same effect on others.

0xfaded 6y ago
I also just added it to firefox. Thanks Barbara Streisand effect!
- vertis 6y ago
  At the risk of a me too thread. I've added it to Firefox as well. I think the final nail in the coffin for Chrome for me was the decision to hobble uBlock Origin several year back. Firefox is far from perfect, but at least it's not completely owned by Google.
- bsdubernerd 6y ago
  Mozilla has been playing a little bit better here, but let's not forget Mozilla could remove the addon on pretty much in the same way. Case in point: Firefox on mobile has a selected _whitelist_ of addons you can install, and that's it.
  - emayljames 6y ago
    True, although you can sign in and add to a collection on the site then add to the browser.
    - m4rtink 6y ago
      Pretty far from user friendly though - not a lot of users will do that, reducing the chance there will be actual demand to fixup the APIs and addons to actually work on mobile.
      - iggldiggl 6y ago
        … and this only works with Nightly or a forked version.
  - Boltgolt 6y ago
    I was under the impression that the new Firefox for Android has not implemented all plugin APIs yet, and thus can't run most of the plugins. Of course there will be plugins that do work and are not whitelisted right now, and they need to get on that, but it's not just whitelisting for the sake of whitelisting
    - kuschku 6y ago
      And you can actually modify that whitelist to be whatever you'd like — e.g. I've added hundreds of addons that aren't by default listed.
      - lordofgibbons 6y ago
        Can you please link to instructions on how to do this?
        kuschku 6y ago
        1. Create a collection of addons you'd like to use on AMO (e.g. via desktop mode) 2. Use Firefox Nightly 3. Click several times on the firefox icon in settings > about until developer mode is enabled 4. Click "change addon collection" and enter your AMO userid as well as the name of the collection you created in step 1 5. Firefox is restarted, and you can install all addons from your collection (if this doesn't work, clear the cache via the android app settings for firefox) 6. Have fun :)
        bsdubernerd 6y ago
        I hope you see why I still don't consider Mozilla behavior acceptable here. Many addons work already, but they're locked behind mozilla's vetting. Not only you need to jump through additional hoops, but you actually require an account on Mozilla's website as well. This is like saying that Chrome is fine too, just use Chromium, get the addon from a github release and there you go!
        6y ago
  - lopis 6y ago
    It's true that the new Firefox still only has a handful of addons available. But that's still a handful more than Chrome supports.
  - stjohnswarts 6y ago
    That's currently a technical limitation because they haven't built all the infrastructure into their "new" browser to handle all the available plugins and don't want to receive thousands of bug reports they can't do anything about.
jrbn 6y ago
Me too. Installed right away.
ship_it 6y ago
Likewise. Step up YC people!
- skinkestek 6y ago
  As has been said by someone before: There's a billion dollar niche waiting for the right company: - make a search engine that works - show text ads clearly distinguishable from results - play nice, and maybe even use use a cool slogan like "we're not evil" or something (it used to be someone else's but it seems they don't use it anymore ;-)
  - passerby1 6y ago
    Do I understand correct that duckduckgo is there already?
    - ErrrNoMate 6y ago
      It's not a search engine, it's just something built on top of Bing. We need something independent to cut through this, it can't have these ties.
      - Satam 6y ago
        Independence on its own, would not be a competitive advantage. In reality, for the most part, people do not care enough about minor privacy violations. The outrage you see online rarely bleeds into the average user's day-to-day decisions. I wonder how the next disruptive innovation is going to look in the search engine market?
        fauigerzigerk 6y ago
        >I wonder how the next disruptive innovation is going to look in the search engine market? I think the search engine market will always be very closely linked to content distribution platforms. If the decentralised web continues to degenerate into an oligopoly of walled gardens then there will be no search engine market in the current sense. We will just use the search function provided by each platform. I believe the question we have to ask is what the next disruptive content distribution platform is going to look like and whether that disruption can be anything more than yet another oligopolist stealing some share from the encumbents before getting bought by one of them (or not).
emayljames 6y ago
Have even went the extra effort of adding to Firefox Android (add to collection, then add in browser). "Nothing to see here, you can't take photos of my mansion".
speedgoose 6y ago
I just added it to Microsoft Edge using the Microsoft Store.
eertami 6y ago
>Firefox as my main browser I tried last year, and honestly it isn't bad. But I use the Chrome "install this site as an App" functionality a lot and Firefox's "app tabs" didn't work nearly as well. Plus, I hear they've removed or are removing said single site browser functionality. This might be a somewhat niche case but it makes it really hard to switch as much as FF does have some nice features (picture in picture for all video content is very nice).
- urthor 6y ago
  On Firefox Android the same button for install this site as an app is right there? It's called Add to Home Screen
  - raihansaputra 6y ago
    I think GP means on the desktop. I also use the same function so I can run the web version of Slack instead of the Electron one, on a separate window with the Slack icon. Firefox killed their efforts to support this (single site browser). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25589177 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25589177
  - nitrogen 6y ago
    I was trying to help a family member set up a new tablet for their kids, and we literally could not find any Add to Home Screen feature in Firefox anywhere. It's there on my phone, but like 80% of the menu items I have were just not there on this tablet.
benhurmarcel 6y ago
FYI, it breaks some websites, and doesn't have a whitelist. I removed it recently because of that.
- andrewkdinh 6y ago
  For me, it only broke websites when I had the extra options enabled in settings (enabled by default). I’d recommend turning them all off and trying to use it again

0xfaded 6y ago

I also just added it to firefox. Thanks Barbara Streisand effect!

vertis 6y ago
At the risk of a me too thread. I've added it to Firefox as well. I think the final nail in the coffin for Chrome for me was the decision to hobble uBlock Origin several year back. Firefox is far from perfect, but at least it's not completely owned by Google.
bsdubernerd 6y ago
Mozilla has been playing a little bit better here, but let's not forget Mozilla could remove the addon on pretty much in the same way. Case in point: Firefox on mobile has a selected _whitelist_ of addons you can install, and that's it.
- emayljames 6y ago
  True, although you can sign in and add to a collection on the site then add to the browser.
  - m4rtink 6y ago
    Pretty far from user friendly though - not a lot of users will do that, reducing the chance there will be actual demand to fixup the APIs and addons to actually work on mobile.
    - iggldiggl 6y ago
      … and this only works with Nightly or a forked version.
- Boltgolt 6y ago
  I was under the impression that the new Firefox for Android has not implemented all plugin APIs yet, and thus can't run most of the plugins. Of course there will be plugins that do work and are not whitelisted right now, and they need to get on that, but it's not just whitelisting for the sake of whitelisting
  - kuschku 6y ago
    And you can actually modify that whitelist to be whatever you'd like — e.g. I've added hundreds of addons that aren't by default listed.
    - lordofgibbons 6y ago
      Can you please link to instructions on how to do this?
      - kuschku 6y ago
        1. Create a collection of addons you'd like to use on AMO (e.g. via desktop mode) 2. Use Firefox Nightly 3. Click several times on the firefox icon in settings > about until developer mode is enabled 4. Click "change addon collection" and enter your AMO userid as well as the name of the collection you created in step 1 5. Firefox is restarted, and you can install all addons from your collection (if this doesn't work, clear the cache via the android app settings for firefox) 6. Have fun :)
        bsdubernerd 6y ago
        I hope you see why I still don't consider Mozilla behavior acceptable here. Many addons work already, but they're locked behind mozilla's vetting. Not only you need to jump through additional hoops, but you actually require an account on Mozilla's website as well. This is like saying that Chrome is fine too, just use Chromium, get the addon from a github release and there you go!
        6y ago
- lopis 6y ago
  It's true that the new Firefox still only has a handful of addons available. But that's still a handful more than Chrome supports.
- stjohnswarts 6y ago
  That's currently a technical limitation because they haven't built all the infrastructure into their "new" browser to handle all the available plugins and don't want to receive thousands of bug reports they can't do anything about.

jrbn 6y ago

Me too. Installed right away.

ship_it 6y ago

Likewise. Step up YC people!

skinkestek 6y ago
As has been said by someone before: There's a billion dollar niche waiting for the right company: - make a search engine that works - show text ads clearly distinguishable from results - play nice, and maybe even use use a cool slogan like "we're not evil" or something (it used to be someone else's but it seems they don't use it anymore ;-)
- passerby1 6y ago
  Do I understand correct that duckduckgo is there already?
  - ErrrNoMate 6y ago
    It's not a search engine, it's just something built on top of Bing. We need something independent to cut through this, it can't have these ties.
    - Satam 6y ago
      Independence on its own, would not be a competitive advantage. In reality, for the most part, people do not care enough about minor privacy violations. The outrage you see online rarely bleeds into the average user's day-to-day decisions. I wonder how the next disruptive innovation is going to look in the search engine market?
      - fauigerzigerk 6y ago
        >I wonder how the next disruptive innovation is going to look in the search engine market? I think the search engine market will always be very closely linked to content distribution platforms. If the decentralised web continues to degenerate into an oligopoly of walled gardens then there will be no search engine market in the current sense. We will just use the search function provided by each platform. I believe the question we have to ask is what the next disruptive content distribution platform is going to look like and whether that disruption can be anything more than yet another oligopolist stealing some share from the encumbents before getting bought by one of them (or not).

emayljames 6y ago

Have even went the extra effort of adding to Firefox Android (add to collection, then add in browser). "Nothing to see here, you can't take photos of my mansion".

speedgoose 6y ago

I just added it to Microsoft Edge using the Microsoft Store.

eertami 6y ago

>Firefox as my main browser I tried last year, and honestly it isn't bad. But I use the Chrome "install this site as an App" functionality a lot and Firefox's "app tabs" didn't work nearly as well. Plus, I hear they've removed or are removing said single site browser functionality. This might be a somewhat niche case but it makes it really hard to switch as much as FF does have some nice features (picture in picture for all video content is very nice).

urthor 6y ago
On Firefox Android the same button for install this site as an app is right there? It's called Add to Home Screen
- raihansaputra 6y ago
  I think GP means on the desktop. I also use the same function so I can run the web version of Slack instead of the Electron one, on a separate window with the Slack icon. Firefox killed their efforts to support this (single site browser). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25589177 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25589177
- nitrogen 6y ago
  I was trying to help a family member set up a new tablet for their kids, and we literally could not find any Add to Home Screen feature in Firefox anywhere. It's there on my phone, but like 80% of the menu items I have were just not there on this tablet.

benhurmarcel 6y ago

FYI, it breaks some websites, and doesn't have a whitelist. I removed it recently because of that.

andrewkdinh 6y ago
For me, it only broke websites when I had the extra options enabled in settings (enabled by default). I’d recommend turning them all off and trying to use it again