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CGNAT is more common than you'd think. The IP address alone is not a definitive indicator it's the same user.

by rgbrenner 6y ago

qbasic_forever 6y ago
Sure, but why risk it. If you're really paranoid about browsing anonymously then use Tor.
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  There's a gulf between the "I don't want companies tracking me" use case of the OP and the "If I get caught spying I'll be executed" use case that Tor addresses.
  - ipaddr 6y ago
    But each request is logged if an ip is reused any website will be able to link your requests.
  - samatman 6y ago
    Naturally there is. That gulf is readily filled with a garden-variety VPN, which works if you're doing the kind of thing where you don't want the web site keeping tabs on you but figure the VPN's reputation is enough to keep them logging your connection and doing something nefarious with that information.
  - judge2020 6y ago
    For the uninitiated, don’t use tor to solve the second goal here without doing proper research. Just using tor is not effective against nation state actors: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-ns...
    - sneak 6y ago
      This is privacy nihilism. Tor is effective against many state-level actors. Not everyone is the five eyes, and Tor is useful in some limited cases against them, too.
      - krageon 6y ago
        If your failure mode is execution, it's best not to count on it unless you understand what you're doing.
    - heavyset_go 6y ago
      Yes, I would hope that anyone whose freedom or life is at risk isn't depending on Tor to keep them safe without knowing what they're doing. In fact, I'd go one step further and recommend that if your freedom or life is at risk, then don't use computers or phones to do things that states might execute or imprison you for at all.
- sneak 6y ago
  Can we please stop using the term paranoid to refer to people who desire privacy?
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CGNAT is more common than you'd think. The IP address alone is not a definitive indicator it's the same user.

qbasic_forever 6y ago

Sure, but why risk it. If you're really paranoid about browsing anonymously then use Tor.

heavyset_go 6y ago
There's a gulf between the "I don't want companies tracking me" use case of the OP and the "If I get caught spying I'll be executed" use case that Tor addresses.
- ipaddr 6y ago
  But each request is logged if an ip is reused any website will be able to link your requests.
- samatman 6y ago
  Naturally there is. That gulf is readily filled with a garden-variety VPN, which works if you're doing the kind of thing where you don't want the web site keeping tabs on you but figure the VPN's reputation is enough to keep them logging your connection and doing something nefarious with that information.
- judge2020 6y ago
  For the uninitiated, don’t use tor to solve the second goal here without doing proper research. Just using tor is not effective against nation state actors: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-ns...
  - sneak 6y ago
    This is privacy nihilism. Tor is effective against many state-level actors. Not everyone is the five eyes, and Tor is useful in some limited cases against them, too.
    - krageon 6y ago
      If your failure mode is execution, it's best not to count on it unless you understand what you're doing.
  - heavyset_go 6y ago
    Yes, I would hope that anyone whose freedom or life is at risk isn't depending on Tor to keep them safe without knowing what they're doing. In fact, I'd go one step further and recommend that if your freedom or life is at risk, then don't use computers or phones to do things that states might execute or imprison you for at all.
sneak 6y ago
Can we please stop using the term paranoid to refer to people who desire privacy?

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