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Reddit nuking accounts of anyone who mentions a new employee or their history
- nelsonmandela 6y agoReddit is such an authoritarian shithole The entire frontpage looks like it is curated by some propaganda department & megacorps acting like their posts with 1000k upvotes aren't advertisements
- belltaco 6y agoMine doesn't look anything like that. Everyone has their own frontpage based on their subreddit subscriptions so I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe post a screenshot?
- justaman 6y agoThere is the personal "front page"(stuff you subscribe to). Then there is the public "front page" which is just the most popular posts on reddit sans some controversial or NSFW subreddits.
- belltaco 6y agor/popular also defaults to a different page by region, so again, I won't see the same posts as the GP.
- belltaco 6y agoAnyway, here's the frontpage of r/popular for me, is the "entire frontpage" full of advertisements by megacorps? Looks like I might be missing something, can someone tell me why each of the, say first five posts, are actually ads? https://i.imgur.com/4x3CugK.png https://i.imgur.com/4x3CugK.png
- threatofrain 6y agoExactly what effective propaganda would have you think!
- silicon2401 6y agoNot saying this is the case in your example, but take the Mariah Carey post: it wouldn't be hard for someone to buy up legit-looking accounts and make a bunch of posts about Mariah Carey (or whatever person/thing) to refresh everyone's memory about the topic in advance of some new concert or movie in a few months. Again, it's not necessarily the case in your screenshot, but at the same time, how do we tell for sure?
- freebuju 6y agoYeah. Reddit are gearing up for an IPO about to launch soon. They need to convince investors of their ability to push ads. Reddit ads most of the time just look like posts. Sometimes (top) posts themselves are cleverly disguised ads. In short, they are just about to go full corporate.
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- viklove 6y agoHN is far, far more authoritarian than most Reddit subs.
- xxxyyj5 6y agoHave to agree here, it's the pernicious kind you find primarily in universities, educated circles and cities - the moral tyranny that CS Lewis talked about. > Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. https://blog.acton.org/archives/1931-lewis-on-moral-tyranny.html https://blog.acton.org/archives/1931-lewis-on-moral-tyranny....
- evgen 6y agoMaybe you should go find yourself another place to play if this one distresses your delicate sensibilities so much. I promise you we will not miss you.
- tzs 6y agoI agree with the other requests for examples. I just went to reddit.com from a browser that has never been there before. Here's what it is showing me. This doesn't seem very propaganda or megacorpish to me. /r/GME post about a billboard telling people to keep holding GME. /r/wallstreetbets GME Megathread. /r/worldnews post about a Saudi official issuing a death threat to a UN investigator apparently over the investigator's investigation into the Khashoggi killing. /r/Cricket match thread about "1st ODO - India vs England". An ad. /r/AskReddit asking what is something you loved as a kid but hate as an adult. /r/technology thread on Microsoft's possible buying of Discord. /r/awefuleverything thread making fun of Americans. /r/worldnews post on a US intelligence agency saying the US should join South America in fight against illegal Chinese fishing. /r/aww post about a puppy. /r/Wellthatsucks post about a home baked pizza failure. /r/IdiotsInCars post about an idiot in a car. /r/politics post about Biden's infrastructure package. ...and it goes on like this...
- seany 6y agoThere's a good automated reddit that tracks this actually. https://old.reddit.com/r/undelete/ https://old.reddit.com/r/undelete/
- doggodaddo78 6y agoIt has a lot of unnecessary conflict, trolling, SJW, crazy people, censorship, idiocy, and no defense allowed insta-ban fascism. What's missing is a nicer general purpose platform that doesn't have so much thin-skinned, circular firing squads or anonymity for SFW topics. Let everyone participate so long as they're not advocating the basic limits of free speech: conspiracy theories, violence, obvious hate, or criminality. Politics is probably best contained to a separate section, as well as NSFW.
- doloto 6y agoThats all due to their "karma" bullshit. It is a truly orwellian concept. People have fear of being silenced so nobody wants to argue with yes-men. Redditors always take one side of any hot issue and usually the top comment sets the tone. So it quickly receives 100000 likes and nobody would dare to disagree and instantly lose all of their precious karma points. So those who disagree will simply stay out of the discussion or would "agree" for the sake of driving their karma up. And every contrarian post will be reported and deleted. It is stupid and disgusting.
- Tenoke 6y agoSome more information by the same author with a few more links: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1374348774378762248 https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1374348774378762248
- falcolas 6y ago… whoah. That’s not someone I’d trust to help run a website that promotes free-ish speech.
- subliminalpanda 6y agoA bit more backstory: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ashton-challenor-the-boy-who-disappeared https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ashton-challenor-the-bo...
- jakelazaroff 6y agoThis article both deadnames and misgenders the subject in the headline and throughout the article, and slurs her as a “trans-identified male”. This is an extremely hateful piece, not in any way a neutral or trustworthy backstory.
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- Tenoke 6y agoSeems like this post has likely been quietly downweighed and pushed off the front-page. I do wish there'd be a bit more transparency over those decisions though I understand they are common and do usually have reasons behind them.
- curtisblaine 6y agoThis thread has been captured in https://rejected.substack.com/ https://rejected.substack.com/, the newsletter of posts that reached the HN frontpage but were silently pushed off, and will be visible in the next release of the newsletter.
- Tenoke 6y agoOh, I never saw this but like it! I occasionally note submissions that have been weighed up/down based on the karma/time of the posts surrounding them for fun.
- nelsonmandela 6y agoDo you have a theory for why they're being pushed off? Are these due to having keywords that are downweighted or sinister VC conflicts of interest? Seems like you're pretty interested in this
- Tenoke 6y agoI've gotten a reply or read a reply in some cases though it's usually done silently. Some cases are due to a topic being overly-popular and having too many front-page submissions and the most obvious ones. Some are from flagging. A lot of the other ones seem to be purely based on what dang (and other mods?) like and don't like. Possibly there's also pressure from YC or VCs, maybe not - I have no idea there. There's also much more up/down weighing than is captured here, some of it more minor. Overall, it's something of a myth that the front-page is mainly based on what the community is interested in - that's at most a secondary factor given the heavy curation and its effect over time.
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- phpnode 6y agoI'm still surprised that Reddit avoided a major scandal over the Ghislaine Maxwell situation. It's clear that they have serious ethical/integrity issues yet have avoided the kind of criticism that FB and Twitter get, despite arguably wielding more power. I wonder if this is partly because a lot of the community call themselves "redditors" and therefore interpret criticism of the platform as a criticism of the community. No one would call themselves a twitterer or a facebooker
- Tenoke 6y agoI admit, I didn't believe /u/maxwellhill was Ghislaine but they still haven't posted since her arrest and it's been barely mentioned given how high-profile of a case it is.
- lamontcg 6y agoSo they haven't posted since they started getting massive amounts of online harassment? Go figure.
- Tenoke 6y agoMaxwellhill was super profilic and definitely got harrassed occasionally in all those years. Stopping exactly when she was arrested and making 0 comments and posts for 8 months since is extremely unusual especially as people forgot about it quick and given that if they were posting there'd be way less reason to suspect them or harass them.
- belltaco 6y agoI don't get why it'd be a major scandal for Reddit even if u/maxwellhill was Ghislaine. They were not a Reddit employee, just a community moderator. Would HN be responsible if famous person X was secretly posting on HN? Do people expect Reddit to dox everyone posting or moderating on their platform and then publicize the results?
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- r721 6y agoReddit discussions: https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/mb1vpb/rukpolitics_goes_private_moderators_suspended/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/mb1vpb/rukp... https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/mb11kw/the_other_place_is_now_private/ https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/mb11kw/the_o...
- catpolice 6y agoThis is a weird policy for reddit. But also, Jesse Singal (and Graham Linehan, linked elsewhere in this thread) are infamous in the trans community for spreading hateful disinformation and encouraging harassment brigades and then complaining about "cancel culture" whenever anyone criticizes them or they say something hateful enough to actually get banned from a platform. We wary of "free speech advocates" who have an axe to grind against a specific set of marginalized people and view any criticism they get or moderation techniques employed against them as authoritarian.
- Tenoke 6y agoI definitely agree about Graham Linehan based on what I saw in that article but not at all about Jesse Singal and he isn't even mentioning they are trans. Singal isn't anti-trans but due to researching and writing about topics like de-transitioning, a lot of people tried to paint him as one, perhaps because actual anti-trans people talk about de-transitioning, too.
- jakelazaroff 6y agoI won't put Singal in the same camp as Linehan, who is virulently transphobic. But in the Twitter thread you posted there are people misgendering Aimee, bemoaning Reddit's takedown of r/gendercritical and posting multiple Graham Linehan articles. So clearly, anti-trans folks see some common ground as well.
- Tenoke 6y agoIf you judge people by what others post under their tweets I'd advise you not to go to Elon Musk's or any other sufficiently famous person's tweets.
- jakelazaroff 6y agoI'm not judging him for that. I'm just saying that it's not only "pro-trans" people who seem to have that impression of him.
- tw04 6y agoI'll be honest, I feel whoever decided to reject this made a pretty poor decision. This is a discussion that absolutely needs to be had, and frankly it looks like collusion between Reddit and HN (while I doubt that's why). Regardless, this community and reddit share a ton of users, if Reddit is going to ban discussion of what is at best a questionable hire, this should be a place to freely discuss it. It's both relevant and topical to the community here. As best I can tell it doesn't violate any rules, and if it does an exception should be made IMO.
- threatofrain 6y ago> This is a discussion that absolutely needs to be had, and frankly it looks like collusion between Reddit and HN (while I doubt that's why). Where is HN colluding on this?
- falcolas 6y agoIt's been (as of my post) knocked off the front page. It's more likely people flagging "non-technology/startup" drama. http://hnrankings.info/26554697/ http://hnrankings.info/26554697/
- tw04 6y agoIf it were flagged shouldn't the post itself read as (dead flagged)? That's been my experience with articles that were flagged off the front page. I'm not seeing that here.
- falcolas 6y agoNo, there's a middle ground where a post is simply de-ranked. Which, absolutely, makes it hard to tell what happened as an outsider. IIRC, basically a "flag" also counts as a bunch of downvotes, in addition to adding up to a threshold where it actually marks a post as "flagged".
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- silicon2401 6y agoSomewhat related, does anyone know of a good tool to archive one's entire reddit history? I'd like to be able to dump all my comments, saved posts, etc to a folder. Even better if I can download whole treads, linked media, etc. Not worried about getting nuked for OP's linked example but I've gotten very interested in building personal archives of any of my online history. As a personal anecdote, earlier this year I went through and (tediously) saved my bungie.net account which contained all my Halo 2, 3, etc online activity history. Funny enough, just a couple of months later Bungie announced that they were shutting down the site, and longtime fans scrambled to save what records they could. Unfortunately the forums were gone by that point, so I lost a lot of my memories there, but today I don't remember how much time I actually spent archiving that data, I remember the memories that come flooding back whenever I look through that data again.
- Tenoke 6y ago>Somewhat related, does anyone know of a good tool to archive one's entire reddit history? I've tried this for nlp training and all the old tools I tried no longer work, and you can't do it via the API either. Your best bet is to scrape it the old fashion way e.g. with Selenium but I am also interested if there's a working tool.
- silicon2401 6y agoBummer; so there is a reddit API, but you really can't use it to just get your saves/comments/etc? I had assumed you could. I guess this'll take more effort than I thought. thanks!
- Zren 6y agoPython has a module called PRAW. https://praw.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started/quick_start.html#common-tasks https://praw.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started/quick_... I wrote a quick script a while back to dump my comments by subreddit to a text file to grep through. There's probably better praw scripts running around. https://gist.github.com/Zren/82befb7bf63e3d9156de1bbd48b0ffef https://gist.github.com/Zren/82befb7bf63e3d9156de1bbd48b0ffe...
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