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Your expectations of the people we trust to manage society for us are way too low. Maybe this is part of the problem with the rot of western civilisation. We’ve

Your expectations of the people we trust to manage society for us are way too low. Maybe this is part of the problem with the rot of western civilisation. We’ve let our standards slip to pitiful levels. If I could foresee this a year ago sitting at home on my sofa with practically zero experience they could too. It is their job to and lack of specific experience doesn’t excuse the lack of application of basic and universal risk mitigation strategies. It doesn’t matter which vaccines would prove to work or not. You ramp up manufacturing capabilities and tooling on the 10 most likely candidates. It’s called hedging and the whole world knows about this strategy for a long time. No epidemiologist thought it would be over in June 2020. All the messaging was and is 2 years at least.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
Or your expectations are too high? Like, this has never happened before, we dodged sars, mers and swine flu so absolutely nobody was prepared. And have you offered to supply your government with all your vast supply chain knowledge? This stuff is complicated, and one link in the chain failing reduces all capacity.
- rorykoehler 6y ago
  It requires a war effort like mobilisation. I never said it was easy but not even trying is inexcusable.
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    To be fair, they did try (to a certain extent). The reason that we have as many vaccines as we do is because the US, UK & EU poured money into all of the vaccine efforts. I'm also super disappointed at the lack of ambition, to be honest (every human should be vaccinated by EOY if we actually want this to be done), but given my experience running much smaller scale logistics, I'm amazed we've done as well as we have. As I note above, the US Feds could definitely have done better, as could the EU, but there's a sense of deference to private providers which I find unwarranted, and which could be the cause of the slowness.
    - rorykoehler 6y ago
      I also don’t understand why we need to negotiate with the private sector at all. This is a crisis. Set a fair price. Mandate an open license, open up manufacturing to anyone and everyone who can do it and just start doing it. Regarding supply chain difficulties we can also throw money at that. For sure there are people and companies who can solve each individual problem if given the resources. Right now we don’t have the luxury of efficiency we just need to get it done.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago

Or your expectations are too high? Like, this has never happened before, we dodged sars, mers and swine flu so absolutely nobody was prepared. And have you offered to supply your government with all your vast supply chain knowledge? This stuff is complicated, and one link in the chain failing reduces all capacity.

rorykoehler 6y ago
It requires a war effort like mobilisation. I never said it was easy but not even trying is inexcusable.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  To be fair, they did try (to a certain extent). The reason that we have as many vaccines as we do is because the US, UK & EU poured money into all of the vaccine efforts. I'm also super disappointed at the lack of ambition, to be honest (every human should be vaccinated by EOY if we actually want this to be done), but given my experience running much smaller scale logistics, I'm amazed we've done as well as we have. As I note above, the US Feds could definitely have done better, as could the EU, but there's a sense of deference to private providers which I find unwarranted, and which could be the cause of the slowness.
  - rorykoehler 6y ago
    I also don’t understand why we need to negotiate with the private sector at all. This is a crisis. Set a fair price. Mandate an open license, open up manufacturing to anyone and everyone who can do it and just start doing it. Regarding supply chain difficulties we can also throw money at that. For sure there are people and companies who can solve each individual problem if given the resources. Right now we don’t have the luxury of efficiency we just need to get it done.