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Something is really wrong, if he highly capable kids are checking off "JIRA tickets". Couldn't you find some college dropouts in Oklahoma instead?

Aeolun 6y ago
They wouldn’t even be able to check off tickets?
shrubble 6y ago
Even the 120k managers and on up to the two levels higher director level, check off Jira tickets at the company I work at...
- flowerlad 6y ago
  Yes, I would expect that at a company where managers make 120k.
  - viklove 6y ago
    Where do you work?
Zhenya 6y ago
I think to check off they tickets, the first need to submit the fix and have it merged
- flowerlad 6y ago
  JIRA tickets are typically used in IT departments. Do you really have to go outside the country to find people good enough to work in IT?
  - markdown 6y ago
    If you want the best, yes.
  - Zhenya 6y ago
    JIRA tickets are used to track bugs and features. Anyone can use them.
  - clappski 6y ago
    JIRA tickets are used by everyone managing every sort of project. Development teams, recruitment pipelines, long term strategy - thinking that it's just for 'IT' is silly.
primitivesuave 6y ago
I think the wording may have been confusing there, I meant that some developers tend to define their work to be exactly what is assigned to them on project management.
- flowerlad 6y ago
  This is what you said: I have been hiring IIT graduates and building a team in India for several years now. They are all really smart people with a strong work ethic, but their approach to work tends to be the same as the approach they needed to succeed in a test-based education system. ... nobody will stop to ask why things are being done a particular way, or offer up some alternative. Which is of course nonsense. The same test-based education system also produced leaders such as the CEO of Google, CEO of IBM and the CEO of Albertsons. If you have been able to hire some to close "JIRA tickets" you scraped the bottom of the barrel and maybe you shouldn't be making generalized conclusions based on your observations!
  - primitivesuave 6y ago
    Sundar Pichai got a masters from Stanford and an MBA from Wharton. I also think you are not reading the other points that JIRA is used by more than just IT, it is a project management tool used by everyone and isn't just for "bottom of the barrel" employees.
    - flowerlad 6y ago
      JIRA is for service tickets [1]. No product development team in top FAANG companies uses JIRA. If you were able to hire IIT graduates to close service tickets (which I doubt) they are the bottom of the barrel. [1] https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/service-management/ticketing-software https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/service-management/t...

Aeolun 6y ago

They wouldn’t even be able to check off tickets?

shrubble 6y ago

Even the 120k managers and on up to the two levels higher director level, check off Jira tickets at the company I work at...

flowerlad 6y ago
Yes, I would expect that at a company where managers make 120k.
- viklove 6y ago
  Where do you work?

Zhenya 6y ago

I think to check off they tickets, the first need to submit the fix and have it merged

flowerlad 6y ago
JIRA tickets are typically used in IT departments. Do you really have to go outside the country to find people good enough to work in IT?
- markdown 6y ago
  If you want the best, yes.
- Zhenya 6y ago
  JIRA tickets are used to track bugs and features. Anyone can use them.
- clappski 6y ago
  JIRA tickets are used by everyone managing every sort of project. Development teams, recruitment pipelines, long term strategy - thinking that it's just for 'IT' is silly.

primitivesuave 6y ago

I think the wording may have been confusing there, I meant that some developers tend to define their work to be exactly what is assigned to them on project management.

flowerlad 6y ago
This is what you said: I have been hiring IIT graduates and building a team in India for several years now. They are all really smart people with a strong work ethic, but their approach to work tends to be the same as the approach they needed to succeed in a test-based education system. ... nobody will stop to ask why things are being done a particular way, or offer up some alternative. Which is of course nonsense. The same test-based education system also produced leaders such as the CEO of Google, CEO of IBM and the CEO of Albertsons. If you have been able to hire some to close "JIRA tickets" you scraped the bottom of the barrel and maybe you shouldn't be making generalized conclusions based on your observations!
- primitivesuave 6y ago
  Sundar Pichai got a masters from Stanford and an MBA from Wharton. I also think you are not reading the other points that JIRA is used by more than just IT, it is a project management tool used by everyone and isn't just for "bottom of the barrel" employees.
  - flowerlad 6y ago
    JIRA is for service tickets [1]. No product development team in top FAANG companies uses JIRA. If you were able to hire IIT graduates to close service tickets (which I doubt) they are the bottom of the barrel. [1] https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/service-management/ticketing-software https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/service-management/t...