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What's fascinating to me is about all of this is that techniques like the ones you implemented and others are all that is needed to eliminate cheating. It's th
by Teever 6y ago
What's fascinating to me is about all of this is that techniques like the ones you implemented and others are all that is needed to eliminate cheating. It's the kind of stuff that is analogous to the protocols developed by the air industry in the mid 20th century that has almost eliminated entire classes of error that could result in loss of life from flying.
It is especially troubling because post-secondary education is a sort of cornerstone of all other human endeavours so the cascading effects of people cheating and not learning the material that they need to be better at their jobs influences lives just as much as a plane crashing.
The silly part is that post-secondary education is something that is far older than the flight industry yet no such standardization of controls over testing / grading have been implemented.
It seems like it's almost a choice.
> Faculty weren’t as charmed with the cratered grades, though.
Yeah. it's a choice.
- fallingknife 6y agoThe scientific research that goes on in post secondary education is the cornerstone. The academic setting is just the way we do it now and can, and I would argue should, change. Grad students could just as easily be junior employees if the same work were done in the private sector and would be financially much better off for it.
- barry-cotter 6y ago> It is especially troubling because post-secondary education is a sort of cornerstone of all other human endeavours so the cascading effects of people cheating and not learning the material that they need to be better at their jobs influences lives just as much as a plane crashing. This is insane. Most people never attend university and do plenty of productive work. Most people who do attend university never work a day in the field they did their degree in. Most people who do work in the field they did their degree in never use the large majority of what they leaned there. On top of this a large majority of professionally relevant material is learned on the job. The reason that there’s no real effort to check people aren’t cheating is because school isn’t primarily about learning, it’s about ranking and sorting.
- noitpmeder 6y ago"Most people who do attend university never work a day in the field they did their degree in.". Curious, any source on this?
- barry-cotter 6y agoFor undergraduate see below. > We find that about 27 percent of undergraduate degree holders are working in a job that is directly related to their college major. https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff_reports/sr587.pdf https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff...
- AniseAbyss 6y agoDon't forget networking. Careers in our modern society are based around who you have in your contact list. Spend as little time as you can in the university library and go around campus socializing.
- collaborative 6y agoAs a uni president I know once privately put it: "universities are warehouses that store unemployed people"
- thisrod 6y agoThat says more about the ruling class from which presidents are selected than it says about universities. No doubt the management of AT&T said similar things about Bell Labs, even after they invented the transistor.
- collaborative 6y agoThe sad thing is that the person who said this actually cared. Being a student at uni makes little sense unless you know that you can afford to not earn any income
- imtringued 6y ago