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The Infinite Drum Machine

226 points by based2 6y ago

searchableguy 6y ago
That's neat. I found a tune that works for me within seconds. How do I share it?
varispeed 6y ago
Sounds like they copied XLN Audio XO - https://assets.xlnaudio.com/pages/xo/1.2/gui-screens/main_2x.png https://assets.xlnaudio.com/pages/xo/1.2/gui-screens/main_2x... They should at least mention what was the "inspiration". Not cool Google. https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/xo https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/xo
- SquareWheel 6y ago
  Isn't this project older than XO? Commits go back 5 years. https://github.com/googlecreativelab/aiexperiments-drum-machine https://github.com/googlecreativelab/aiexperiments-drum-mach...
  - smoe 6y ago
    XO was launched 2019 https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/1260470-xln-audio-releases-xo-revolutionary-new-way-exploring-sounds-making-beats.html https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-... Looks like the "inspiration" might have been the other way around. Don't see a problem with that, all of art is built upon each others ideas.
    - varispeed 6y ago
      Oh I didn't know. Thank you for sharing!
      - anon_tor_12345 6y ago
        shouldn't you edit your comment to remove the passive aggressive accusation?
        varispeed 6y ago
        I doesn't let me
- qmmmur 6y ago
  The idea is hardly novel. http://imtr.ircam.fr/imtr/CataRT http://imtr.ircam.fr/imtr/CataRT is seminal in this regard and much much older.
  - guy-om 6y ago
    CataRT has moved here https://forum.ircam.fr/projects/detail/catart-standalone/ https://forum.ircam.fr/projects/detail/catart-standalone/
    - qmmmur 6y ago
      That's just the standalone. CataRT has many incarnations and that is just one.
ic0n0cl4st 6y ago
How will they make a drum machine spy on us?
- tuckerconnelly 6y ago
  They can generate a hyper accurate personality model based on your drum preferences.
bryan_cooper 6y ago
If only there was a BPM readout, this would be stellar.
fctorial 6y ago
There's no way to increase the row column count.
deleted 6y ago
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jabo 6y ago
Here’s an opera music generator from the same site that I’ve spent an embarrassingly large amount of time playing with: https://experiments.withgoogle.com/blob-opera https://experiments.withgoogle.com/blob-opera
- jtbayly 6y ago
  Very fun. Thanks for sharing.
amelius 6y ago
Reminds me of FruityLoops.
finger 6y ago
Doesn’t work for me on iOS. Just says Loading when I open the page.
andybak 6y ago
> Built by Kyle McDonald, Manny Tan, Yotam Mann, and friends at Google Creative Lab. Pretty sure Cabbibo did something remarkably similar a couple of years ago: https://store.steampowered.com/app/694550/Audio_Forager/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/694550/Audio_Forager/
- andybak 6y ago
  Cabbibo actually replied on Twitter. All looks above board: https://twitter.com/Cabbibo/status/1373794380700524550?s=20 https://twitter.com/Cabbibo/status/1373794380700524550?s=20
globular-toast 6y ago
It's funny, but hard to make anything sound good due to inconsistent hit points in the samples. Even with a very simple pattern nothing sounds very rhythmic to my ears.
- borepop 6y ago
  Yeah honestly it's pretty weak compared to an actual music sequencing DAW like FL Studio or even an app like Patterning 2.
Slow_Hand 6y ago
What do you suppose they mean when they call it "infinite"? I'm not seeing much description of what the concept behind the project is supposed to be.
- Shizus 6y ago
  It's in a loop
  - LegitShady 6y ago
    this is true for every sequencer I've used so far
- kortex 6y ago
  I think it's supposed to be some kind of latent vector space where the coordinate maps to the sounds' timbre. So in theory, you can move seamlessly between sounds. But I seem to only be able to snap to nearest sound. Edit: they use t-SNE for the embedding so that is why it is discrete. But if they used something like an autoencoder, then you could have a smooth continuum and interpolate between say a dog bark and a billiards clack.
Gys 6y ago
No sound on my iphone x
- JansjoFromIkea 6y ago
  Usually with these things I've to actively turn off the silent switch on my iPhone for audio to be enabled. Definitely if it's a Tone.js app, which it probably is? They should be able to detect it's an iphone and issue an warning message for that though seeing as a lot of people will have that switch enabled
laybak 6y ago
Nice! Has anyone figured out a good way to export the sounds and the MIDI?
- tgv 6y ago
  Sounds are loaded via http, so copy the link and use curl. E.g. https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/audio/47.mp3 https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/audi... and https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/meta/47.json https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/meta.... I don't think there's any MIDI.
deathanatos 6y ago
Doesn't seem to have a lot of … drums? No hi hat, no tom tom. No "taiko" drums which I realize is a bit broad. "Cymbals" nets me three "percussion finger bells" (okay, technically, I suppose?) and one "percussion drums". Some snare and timpani…
hollowcelery 6y ago
The results sound a lot like the techno that Wishmountain (aka Matthew Herbert) was making with household objects a few years back Wishmountain - Radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1mN91YDgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1mN91YDgw Wishmountain - Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2CV8m4u16E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2CV8m4u16E
- chrisweekly 6y ago
  Hey thanks for the clue; that Wishmountain drum track is awesome! :)
oliv__ 6y ago
The website is super smooth and the experience is great! Wonder what it's built with...
- nmfisher 6y ago
  Looks like three.js with WebGL.
peterfield 6y ago
Why is there even "AI" in the url? It's a funny "thing", but there is nothing in there related to AI is there?
- bckr 6y ago
  see kortex' t-SNE related comment below
  - peterfield 6y ago
    Thx
- alex_duf 6y ago
  I'm guessing the classification might have been done by an AI?
khattak 6y ago
das
mike_d 6y ago
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."
r0b05 6y ago
This is freaking amazing and so intuitive.
fab1an 6y ago
Meh. This is an extremely basic drum machine / step sequencer with a larger number samples, and I'm pretty sure I've seen the "sample cloud" approach lots of times by now in various VSTs. Probably still fun for folk with zero exposure to music production!
JansjoFromIkea 6y ago
This is a fairly basic interface, I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been more of a scene of making unusual music interfaces in the format of Electroplankton on the Nintendo DS. It does seem to be one of those things where the people with the musical knowledge to potentially make super creative interfaces have gotten so deep into the technical side of things that they struggle to make intuitive UIs. Electroplankton example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BexGR0OQF-I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BexGR0OQF-I

226 points by based2 6y ago

That's neat. I found a tune that works for me within seconds. How do I share it?

Sounds like they copied XLN Audio XO - https://assets.xlnaudio.com/pages/xo/1.2/gui-screens/main_2x.png https://assets.xlnaudio.com/pages/xo/1.2/gui-screens/main_2x... They should at least mention what was the "inspiration". Not cool Google. https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/xo https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/xo

SquareWheel 6y ago
Isn't this project older than XO? Commits go back 5 years. https://github.com/googlecreativelab/aiexperiments-drum-machine https://github.com/googlecreativelab/aiexperiments-drum-mach...
- smoe 6y ago
  XO was launched 2019 https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/1260470-xln-audio-releases-xo-revolutionary-new-way-exploring-sounds-making-beats.html https://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-... Looks like the "inspiration" might have been the other way around. Don't see a problem with that, all of art is built upon each others ideas.
  - varispeed 6y ago
    Oh I didn't know. Thank you for sharing!
    - anon_tor_12345 6y ago
      shouldn't you edit your comment to remove the passive aggressive accusation?
      - varispeed 6y ago
        I doesn't let me
qmmmur 6y ago
The idea is hardly novel. http://imtr.ircam.fr/imtr/CataRT http://imtr.ircam.fr/imtr/CataRT is seminal in this regard and much much older.
- guy-om 6y ago
  CataRT has moved here https://forum.ircam.fr/projects/detail/catart-standalone/ https://forum.ircam.fr/projects/detail/catart-standalone/
  - qmmmur 6y ago
    That's just the standalone. CataRT has many incarnations and that is just one.

ic0n0cl4st 6y ago

How will they make a drum machine spy on us?

tuckerconnelly 6y ago
They can generate a hyper accurate personality model based on your drum preferences.

bryan_cooper 6y ago

If only there was a BPM readout, this would be stellar.

fctorial 6y ago

There's no way to increase the row column count.

deleted 6y ago

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jabo 6y ago

Here’s an opera music generator from the same site that I’ve spent an embarrassingly large amount of time playing with: https://experiments.withgoogle.com/blob-opera https://experiments.withgoogle.com/blob-opera

jtbayly 6y ago
Very fun. Thanks for sharing.

amelius 6y ago

Reminds me of FruityLoops.

finger 6y ago

Doesn’t work for me on iOS. Just says Loading when I open the page.

andybak 6y ago

> Built by Kyle McDonald, Manny Tan, Yotam Mann, and friends at Google Creative Lab. Pretty sure Cabbibo did something remarkably similar a couple of years ago: https://store.steampowered.com/app/694550/Audio_Forager/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/694550/Audio_Forager/

andybak 6y ago
Cabbibo actually replied on Twitter. All looks above board: https://twitter.com/Cabbibo/status/1373794380700524550?s=20 https://twitter.com/Cabbibo/status/1373794380700524550?s=20

globular-toast 6y ago

It's funny, but hard to make anything sound good due to inconsistent hit points in the samples. Even with a very simple pattern nothing sounds very rhythmic to my ears.

borepop 6y ago
Yeah honestly it's pretty weak compared to an actual music sequencing DAW like FL Studio or even an app like Patterning 2.

Slow_Hand 6y ago

What do you suppose they mean when they call it "infinite"? I'm not seeing much description of what the concept behind the project is supposed to be.

Shizus 6y ago
It's in a loop
- LegitShady 6y ago
  this is true for every sequencer I've used so far
kortex 6y ago
I think it's supposed to be some kind of latent vector space where the coordinate maps to the sounds' timbre. So in theory, you can move seamlessly between sounds. But I seem to only be able to snap to nearest sound. Edit: they use t-SNE for the embedding so that is why it is discrete. But if they used something like an autoencoder, then you could have a smooth continuum and interpolate between say a dog bark and a billiards clack.

Gys 6y ago

No sound on my iphone x

JansjoFromIkea 6y ago
Usually with these things I've to actively turn off the silent switch on my iPhone for audio to be enabled. Definitely if it's a Tone.js app, which it probably is? They should be able to detect it's an iphone and issue an warning message for that though seeing as a lot of people will have that switch enabled

laybak 6y ago

Nice! Has anyone figured out a good way to export the sounds and the MIDI?

tgv 6y ago
Sounds are loaded via http, so copy the link and use curl. E.g. https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/audio/47.mp3 https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/audi... and https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/meta/47.json https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/drum-machine/view/meta.... I don't think there's any MIDI.

deathanatos 6y ago

Doesn't seem to have a lot of … drums? No hi hat, no tom tom. No "taiko" drums which I realize is a bit broad. "Cymbals" nets me three "percussion finger bells" (okay, technically, I suppose?) and one "percussion drums". Some snare and timpani…

hollowcelery 6y ago

The results sound a lot like the techno that Wishmountain (aka Matthew Herbert) was making with household objects a few years back Wishmountain - Radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1mN91YDgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1mN91YDgw Wishmountain - Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2CV8m4u16E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2CV8m4u16E

chrisweekly 6y ago
Hey thanks for the clue; that Wishmountain drum track is awesome! :)

oliv__ 6y ago

The website is super smooth and the experience is great! Wonder what it's built with...

nmfisher 6y ago
Looks like three.js with WebGL.

peterfield 6y ago

Why is there even "AI" in the url? It's a funny "thing", but there is nothing in there related to AI is there?

bckr 6y ago
see kortex' t-SNE related comment below
- peterfield 6y ago
  Thx
alex_duf 6y ago
I'm guessing the classification might have been done by an AI?

khattak 6y ago

das

mike_d 6y ago

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."

r0b05 6y ago

This is freaking amazing and so intuitive.

fab1an 6y ago

Meh. This is an extremely basic drum machine / step sequencer with a larger number samples, and I'm pretty sure I've seen the "sample cloud" approach lots of times by now in various VSTs. Probably still fun for folk with zero exposure to music production!

JansjoFromIkea 6y ago

This is a fairly basic interface, I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been more of a scene of making unusual music interfaces in the format of Electroplankton on the Nintendo DS. It does seem to be one of those things where the people with the musical knowledge to potentially make super creative interfaces have gotten so deep into the technical side of things that they struggle to make intuitive UIs. Electroplankton example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BexGR0OQF-I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BexGR0OQF-I