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Donald Trump is creating his own social media network
- ipnon 6y agoI think this is a win-win. Twitter and Reddit don't have to moderate Trump communities and Trump's supporters can speak their minds freely.
- lanecwagner 6y agoand the echo chambers isolate further...
- Throwawayjedi 6y agothe alternative being censorship?
- cyanydeez 6y agowe have had nazi forums for decades, hows this gonna change the way in which nazis want to orgqnize
- andyxor 6y agowhat makes you think conservatives are equivalent of 'nazis'
- mpfundstein 6y agoprehudice due to msm brainwashing I would say. its a shame that our society is so well educated and still not able to not put a label on everybodys head
- postalrat 6y agoI think he means the twitter echo chamber.
- underwater 6y agoTwitter as a product seems to be completely built around reinforcing existing viewpoints. For example: * You can't convince anyone of anything in 280 characters. So the content just reinforces existing beliefs. * Likes and retweets means that posts that get a strong reaction will overtake everything else. This means everything is either optimised for inducing anger or is a joke. * The product is built around cults of personalities rather than letting the content speak for itself. * Distribution via quote tweets mean the audience has been primed on what to think about something before they read it. I don't think there was ever any chance that Twitter could facilitate a meeting of the minds.
- nradov 6y agoWhat is the number of characters required to convince someone of something?
- geoduck14 6y agoProbably like 281
- underwater 6y agoIf even want to explore a topic with some nuance you need more than 280 characters. Twitter's quota gives you three, maybe four, sentences. That's not enough to even define conflicting view points, let along explore those view points in depth.
- ipnon 6y agoI actually prefer it this way. I use Twitter to follow bleeding edge crypto accounts. I have many other interests but if Twitter started diversifying my feed with mainstream viewpoints I would stop using the service. They have a hard game to play where they can't make everyone happy, so I sympathize. I don't spend a penny on Twitter so I can't complain.
- AzzieElbab 6y agoHow would you envision an alternative?
- ekianjo 6y ago> and the echo chambers isolate further... Echo chambers are a natural thing. People gravitate to others' who have similar viewpoints. Has always been true, now it's not just true in a physical sense but also digitally. The behavior hasn't changed a bit though. Also, even people who claim to be "open-minded" would have a very hard time being exposed constantly to contrarian viewpoints: your mental health depends on anchoring, whether you realize it or not.
- justjonathan 6y agoNow SuperPAC funds can be used like VC, and just when the world so desperately needs another G+
- ENGNR 6y agoModeration of posts will be their downfall, morally and probably legally We’ll probably also find out if the depths of society can get even weirder than /r/incel
- zamalek 6y agoI am also curious if they have solved the issue of hosting yet another white supremacist Twitter.
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- waiseristy 6y agoNot sure how they plan on turning a profit. Twitter, reddit, et al have been working on pacifying their platforms for years in order to make them palatable places to advertise
- tuwtuwtuwtuw 6y agoDonations from supporters?
- waiseristy 6y agoProbably, on top of injections of cash from his Wallstreet cronies. I don't think it will prove to be sustainable
- andyxor 6y agohalf a country still supports Trump, conservatives voices are aggressively silenced. Donations can keep it afloat until the next Trump term.
- waiseristy 6y agoI don't want to devolve into politic talk on HN, but both of these claims are debatable. We'll see if Mr. Trump can keep this business venture afloat! I'm excited to see what happens
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- jshaqaw 6y agoMypillow ads?
- jhayward 6y agoMoney laundering has long been a mainstay of Trump business models.
- andyxor 6y agosign me up!
- atypeoferror 6y agoGiven that nearly every other Trump project has been a cash-hemorrhaging catastrophic failure, I’m not seeing this going anywhere.
- mpfundstein 6y agoright, so he became a billionaire because of his constant failures.
- hedora 6y agoHe was born rich, and has been bankrupt many times. He would have significantly more money if he simply invested in index funds.
- AzzieElbab 6y agoTrump can’t do complex things. However, just looking at hn comments gives me the impression that there are enough people in the industry who will be willing to help him out.
- hiram112 6y agoI bet you cried when it was proven Trump paid low taxes for his hundreds of millions in income, while also believing, without even a twinge of cognitive dissonance, how every one of his business ventures hemorrage money.
- atypeoferror 6y agoThe reason he paid low taxes is precisely BECAUSE of the huge losses - they were greater than the income - one follows there other, there is no contradiction. Of course, we will see how inflated those losses were in the course for the NY AG investigation.
- dmode 6y agoI am sure it will be a bastion of free speech and all criticisms of Trump will be tolerated and encouraged, just like r/conservative
- justanother 6y agoNot trying to be political, I just... hope the service provider gets paid in advance.
- Traster 6y agoWith other sites like Parler there was a reasonable expectation going in that maybe these sites would be ok. And then they violated terms of service. I don't think Trump is going to pass KYC checks for any decent company.
- seaourfreed 6y agoWhen Trump was booted from Twitter, the mantra was it one person was censored. The truth of millions downloading Parlor immediately after causing it to be the #1 downloaded app in iOS and Android app store, shows this was about millions of people not accepting censorship. Censor a few and our nation will divide. Almost like TV political news dividing our country between MSNBC vs Fox News. Deplatforming is censorship. See Clubhouse being normal healthy large community speaking out loudly that they aren't accepting the deplatforming on Twitter / Facebook / YouTube.
- ergocoder 6y agoA somewhat good move, tbh. He has followers and nowhere to converse. And it's not just 1-to-many. His followers want to talk among themselves. As long as he can keep the site out of a legal problem. It can be a decent hit. Parlor is way too extreme. Necessary disclosure: I'm in no way a trump supporter. 99% of social networks fail, but this one may have a good foundation to succeed.
- donovanian 6y agoHe's doing exactly what the big tech liberal contingent told him to do. "It's not censorship - you can create your own."
- m-p-3 6y agoI'm curious to see if they'll go with a Mastodon derivative with ActivityPub, as they'll likely won't be able to publish a mobile app directly tied to it if the comments are a bit too extreme for Google and Apple.