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Off topic, but to this day I love that mix of sprites and 3D these classic shooters have. I bought Doom on my Switch for $2 and it's been a joy. I wish people

Off topic, but to this day I love that mix of sprites and 3D these classic shooters have. I bought Doom on my Switch for $2 and it's been a joy. I wish people would still make them instead of going full 3D! EDIT: Thanks for the game recommendations everyone!

EliasWatson 6y ago
Check out Post Void. It's a newer game that uses that style.
musha68k 6y ago
The modding scene for these games is alive and well. FWIW Bethesda keeps updating even Switch Doom with some of the latest mods (Romero’s Sigil, etc). Also check out Ion Fury if you haven’t yet: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Fury https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Fury
mysterydip 6y ago
There are some out there. I was working on a game using the original Rise of the Triad engine which did 2D sprites, but the idea evolved to larger than that engine could really support. I'm now making a modern engine but keeping some of the philosophy to target low spec machines, so some of my "models" are 2D sprites.
bozzcl 6y ago
There's quite a few retro shooters like that nowadays. Prodeus, Ion Fury, Amid Evil, Project Warlock, Project Downfall, Hedon, Viscerafest... and those are just the ones I know about. If you include retro 3D (think mid-90s style) there's even more! There's also a lot of mods and TCs for some classic games, like Doom or DN3D. You should follow some gaming channels on YouTube that focus on retro shooters, they're a good source of new ones to play. I'd recommend ICARUSLIV3S and GmanLives if you'd like to find more.
- mikewhy 6y ago
  Aye, boomer shooters are pretty hot nowadays. And what I love about them is that they're able to just use the original engines* from decades ago: https://store.steampowered.com/app/562860/Ion_Fury/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/562860/Ion_Fury/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000410/WRATH_Aeon_of_Ruin/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000410/WRATH_Aeon_of_Rui... * well, sourceports of the engines.
  - stryan 6y ago
    >And what I love about them is that they're able to just use the original engines* from decades ago DUSK is a great exception to that, where they actually used a very heavily modified version of Unity to get something similar to ioquake or the early DOOM engines. IIRC most of the graphics programming was actually done to stop Unity from making the game "look better" :) Amid Evil is another notable exception that I can think of of the top of my head: it uses Unreal4.
    - bozzcl 6y ago
      Oh man, Amid Evil is pretty crazy in that regard. All the game elements are sprites with depth mapping, so they react somewhat realistically to level illumination. Prodeus does something similar as well. In fact, you can switch between 2D sprites and 3D models on the fly.
      - sitkack 6y ago
        Amid Evil looks like an alternative universe where 3dfx was still on top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBlTTW3RRtw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBlTTW3RRtw Prodeus is more like an Amiga64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUN7t2RyMSs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUN7t2RyMSs This is really cool from a cultural evolution perspective to see fads and nostalgia fold back on itself. Are voxels the one piece jump suit of video games?
  - whateveracct 6y ago
    The source ports of the engines seem to be GPL'd though, so I'd imagine an indie dev would have to open source their game as well?
- wishinghand 6y ago
  I love this renaissance the genre is having, combining older aesthetic with better art design and lighting. Valheim comes to mind. I hope janky looking games but that are as deep as Deus Ex aren't far behind.
modeless 6y ago
For something a little different, check out Sonic Robo Blast 2. It's a third person 3D Sonic the Hedgehog fan game based on the Doom Legacy engine, and it's surprisingly quite decent. Certainly better than some of Sonic Team's efforts.
- whateveracct 6y ago
  I'll check this out. I love the look of sprites in 3D it seems. Further from uncanny valley -> more allowance for imagination?
markus_zhang 6y ago
Other than games others recommend, maybe check out the mod community of those games you love. There are TONS of mods, and I mean top quality mods of classic FPS, enough to spend a whole year or more to play all of those through. I saved a few Youtube channel for these kinds of things: pagb666: (DOOM mods and wads) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgYF9U_IDn77we6eSs-QYDw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgYF9U_IDn77we6eSs-QYDw Sinatar: (General classic game channel) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_uzHYOPYZOyIYd6nGN3VA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_uzHYOPYZOyIYd6nGN3VA dumptruck_ds: (Quake mapping) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF502yOYr_olPaw6xgnYmaQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF502yOYr_olPaw6xgnYmaQ tatsurdcacocaco: (DOOM wads and mods) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBhdYANRJZiG6JmnqR7h3yw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBhdYANRJZiG6JmnqR7h3yw
gh123man 6y ago
I actually designed and built a (modern?) game like this! If you have an iPhone you can check it out. It's sort of "Portal meets Doom" https://blog.sb1.io/gateescape/ https://blog.sb1.io/gateescape/ I used some screenspace shaders for the controls and color blending, but the engine itself is an oldschool raycaster. Building it posed a lot of interesting problems like how to recessively render sprites through portals and things like that. I also open sourced an early prototype of the engine: https://github.com/gh123man/Portal-Raycaster https://github.com/gh123man/Portal-Raycaster
- whateveracct 6y ago
  I downloaded it and am gonna give it a try!
anthk 6y ago
Get FreeDoom and PrBoomPlus for PC, it's a vanilla Doom/Doom2 compatible Iwad which will allow you to play any Doom2 PWAD out there (and get an amazing shooter for free by itself, too).

EliasWatson 6y ago

Check out Post Void. It's a newer game that uses that style.

musha68k 6y ago

The modding scene for these games is alive and well. FWIW Bethesda keeps updating even Switch Doom with some of the latest mods (Romero’s Sigil, etc). Also check out Ion Fury if you haven’t yet: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Fury https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Fury

mysterydip 6y ago

There are some out there. I was working on a game using the original Rise of the Triad engine which did 2D sprites, but the idea evolved to larger than that engine could really support. I'm now making a modern engine but keeping some of the philosophy to target low spec machines, so some of my "models" are 2D sprites.

bozzcl 6y ago

There's quite a few retro shooters like that nowadays. Prodeus, Ion Fury, Amid Evil, Project Warlock, Project Downfall, Hedon, Viscerafest... and those are just the ones I know about. If you include retro 3D (think mid-90s style) there's even more! There's also a lot of mods and TCs for some classic games, like Doom or DN3D. You should follow some gaming channels on YouTube that focus on retro shooters, they're a good source of new ones to play. I'd recommend ICARUSLIV3S and GmanLives if you'd like to find more.

mikewhy 6y ago
Aye, boomer shooters are pretty hot nowadays. And what I love about them is that they're able to just use the original engines* from decades ago: https://store.steampowered.com/app/562860/Ion_Fury/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/562860/Ion_Fury/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000410/WRATH_Aeon_of_Ruin/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000410/WRATH_Aeon_of_Rui... * well, sourceports of the engines.
- stryan 6y ago
  >And what I love about them is that they're able to just use the original engines* from decades ago DUSK is a great exception to that, where they actually used a very heavily modified version of Unity to get something similar to ioquake or the early DOOM engines. IIRC most of the graphics programming was actually done to stop Unity from making the game "look better" :) Amid Evil is another notable exception that I can think of of the top of my head: it uses Unreal4.
  - bozzcl 6y ago
    Oh man, Amid Evil is pretty crazy in that regard. All the game elements are sprites with depth mapping, so they react somewhat realistically to level illumination. Prodeus does something similar as well. In fact, you can switch between 2D sprites and 3D models on the fly.
    - sitkack 6y ago
      Amid Evil looks like an alternative universe where 3dfx was still on top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBlTTW3RRtw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBlTTW3RRtw Prodeus is more like an Amiga64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUN7t2RyMSs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUN7t2RyMSs This is really cool from a cultural evolution perspective to see fads and nostalgia fold back on itself. Are voxels the one piece jump suit of video games?
- whateveracct 6y ago
  The source ports of the engines seem to be GPL'd though, so I'd imagine an indie dev would have to open source their game as well?
wishinghand 6y ago
I love this renaissance the genre is having, combining older aesthetic with better art design and lighting. Valheim comes to mind. I hope janky looking games but that are as deep as Deus Ex aren't far behind.

modeless 6y ago

For something a little different, check out Sonic Robo Blast 2. It's a third person 3D Sonic the Hedgehog fan game based on the Doom Legacy engine, and it's surprisingly quite decent. Certainly better than some of Sonic Team's efforts.

whateveracct 6y ago
I'll check this out. I love the look of sprites in 3D it seems. Further from uncanny valley -> more allowance for imagination?

markus_zhang 6y ago

Other than games others recommend, maybe check out the mod community of those games you love. There are TONS of mods, and I mean top quality mods of classic FPS, enough to spend a whole year or more to play all of those through. I saved a few Youtube channel for these kinds of things: pagb666: (DOOM mods and wads) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgYF9U_IDn77we6eSs-QYDw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgYF9U_IDn77we6eSs-QYDw Sinatar: (General classic game channel) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_uzHYOPYZOyIYd6nGN3VA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_uzHYOPYZOyIYd6nGN3VA dumptruck_ds: (Quake mapping) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF502yOYr_olPaw6xgnYmaQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF502yOYr_olPaw6xgnYmaQ tatsurdcacocaco: (DOOM wads and mods) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBhdYANRJZiG6JmnqR7h3yw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBhdYANRJZiG6JmnqR7h3yw

gh123man 6y ago

I actually designed and built a (modern?) game like this! If you have an iPhone you can check it out. It's sort of "Portal meets Doom" https://blog.sb1.io/gateescape/ https://blog.sb1.io/gateescape/ I used some screenspace shaders for the controls and color blending, but the engine itself is an oldschool raycaster. Building it posed a lot of interesting problems like how to recessively render sprites through portals and things like that. I also open sourced an early prototype of the engine: https://github.com/gh123man/Portal-Raycaster https://github.com/gh123man/Portal-Raycaster

whateveracct 6y ago
I downloaded it and am gonna give it a try!

anthk 6y ago

Get FreeDoom and PrBoomPlus for PC, it's a vanilla Doom/Doom2 compatible Iwad which will allow you to play any Doom2 PWAD out there (and get an amazing shooter for free by itself, too).