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John's usage reminded me of something I read in Rob Rike's "Uses This" interview[1]: "I want no local storage anywhere near me other than maybe caches. No disk

John's usage reminded me of something I read in Rob Rike's "Uses This" interview[1]: "I want no local storage anywhere near me other than maybe caches. No disks, no state, my world entirely in the network. Storage needs to be backed up and maintained, which should be someone else's problem, one I'm happy to pay to have them solve." [1]https://usesthis.com/interviews/rob.pike/ https://usesthis.com/interviews/rob.pike/

chris1993 6y ago
Essentially a Chromebook
- wwalexander 6y ago
  It’s worth reading the rest of the interview, I find Rob Pike has a very interesting/unique take on the current landscape given his involvement with Plan 9: > Now everything isn't connected, just connected to the cloud, which isn't the same thing. And uniform? Far from it, except in mediocrity. This is 2012 and we're still stitching together little microcomputers with HTTPS and ssh and calling it revolutionary.
  - iamevn 6y ago
    If you want to see more on this theme, the Upspin docs[1] are a really interesting read. This 2017 talk[2] that Rob Pike gave on it is also really good. [1] https://upspin.io/ https://upspin.io/ [2] https://youtu.be/ENLWEfi0Tkg https://youtu.be/ENLWEfi0Tkg
    - Crontab 6y ago
      Thank you! I hadn't seen this.
    - 4ad 6y ago
      To bad development has stopped.
- techrat 6y ago
  Less so now that ChromeOS runs Android Apps and Linux in a VM. Both, unfortunately are heavily restricted to local storage so there's no real sense of being able to log into another Chromebook and have those ready and waiting for you. Android apps will reinstall but not always (read: almost never) with app data as before. Linux Apps is 100% manual still. ChromeOS was great for 'switch to a new machine and log in' use... but it's so much more complex than that now. Only the most locked down managed devices wouldn't have to worry about anything left behind on a device before someone abandons it. At this rate, short of a native package manager and repo for installing applications to run on ChromeOS (instead of a container Linux distro on top), ChromeOS might as well be considered a distro in of itself. Especially with CloudReady being installable on non-Google sanctioned hardware.
  - Craighead 6y ago
    All of that is optional and manageable via Workspace admin console.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    Even with just ChromeOS, as far as I can tell any files you download go to a local folder that's not backed up. If you want anything to be safe you have to manually copy it over to the google drive folder.
driverdan 6y ago
The main downside of this is if you lose internet access you lose access to most of your data. I intentionally have a local NAS so that I don't have to worry about outages.

chris1993 6y ago

Essentially a Chromebook

wwalexander 6y ago
It’s worth reading the rest of the interview, I find Rob Pike has a very interesting/unique take on the current landscape given his involvement with Plan 9: > Now everything isn't connected, just connected to the cloud, which isn't the same thing. And uniform? Far from it, except in mediocrity. This is 2012 and we're still stitching together little microcomputers with HTTPS and ssh and calling it revolutionary.
- iamevn 6y ago
  If you want to see more on this theme, the Upspin docs[1] are a really interesting read. This 2017 talk[2] that Rob Pike gave on it is also really good. [1] https://upspin.io/ https://upspin.io/ [2] https://youtu.be/ENLWEfi0Tkg https://youtu.be/ENLWEfi0Tkg
  - Crontab 6y ago
    Thank you! I hadn't seen this.
  - 4ad 6y ago
    To bad development has stopped.
techrat 6y ago
Less so now that ChromeOS runs Android Apps and Linux in a VM. Both, unfortunately are heavily restricted to local storage so there's no real sense of being able to log into another Chromebook and have those ready and waiting for you. Android apps will reinstall but not always (read: almost never) with app data as before. Linux Apps is 100% manual still. ChromeOS was great for 'switch to a new machine and log in' use... but it's so much more complex than that now. Only the most locked down managed devices wouldn't have to worry about anything left behind on a device before someone abandons it. At this rate, short of a native package manager and repo for installing applications to run on ChromeOS (instead of a container Linux distro on top), ChromeOS might as well be considered a distro in of itself. Especially with CloudReady being installable on non-Google sanctioned hardware.
- Craighead 6y ago
  All of that is optional and manageable via Workspace admin console.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  Even with just ChromeOS, as far as I can tell any files you download go to a local folder that's not backed up. If you want anything to be safe you have to manually copy it over to the google drive folder.

driverdan 6y ago

The main downside of this is if you lose internet access you lose access to most of your data. I intentionally have a local NAS so that I don't have to worry about outages.