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Show HN: Obsidian - OTP Authenticator
- hojjat12000 6y agoI got confused for a second. I thought they added OTP to the Markdown editor that I use[1]. I wonder if the name "Obsidian" is gaining more popularity because of the recent surge in Minecraft's player base. [1] https://obsidian.md/ https://obsidian.md/
- r4id4 6y agoI actually released Obsidian 3-4 years ago :)
- hojjat12000 6y agoTo be fair it makes a lot more sense to call an OTP authenticator, obisdian, than a Markdown editor.
- singhkays 6y agoWhy's that?
- hojjat12000 6y agoObsidian is supposed to be a super tough type of stone (in the Minecraft game, in reality it's like glass, it's brittle and shatters easily, but because of the game everybody thinks Obsidian is tough). OTP Authenticator implying that it's tough like obsidian makes more sense, than a Markdown Editor. Of course, this is my opinion and I don't know why either of them called their project Obsidian.
- r4id4 6y agoI can answer for the Obsidian Authenticator, I've always loved gems and minerals and I thought the name was cool! as simple as that :)
- tw04 6y agoI'm curious why I'd use this over authy?
- AdamJacobMuller 6y agoAnecdotal, but, Authy has been very buggy for me lately. Locking up (100% CPU) on my computer and sync across devices sometimes not working. No specific reason to assume Obsidian is better, but, its annoying enough that it turned Authy from something that seamlessly "just works" into something which I feel like i'm fighting with.
- r4id4 6y agoI'm not saying Obsidian "just works", but it does ahah. I'm kidding, anyway you can give it a try to see if it satisfies your needs
- anderiv 6y agoAgreed. It's been buggy enough that I've been looking for an alternative to migrate things to. Perhaps I'll try Obsidian!
- r4id4 6y agoLet me know if you need any help :) In the app settings you can also find the email to contact me directly! Cheers
- 1cvmask 6y agoFor syncing across multiple devices and being potentially available on the web portal or from the browser extension check out Saas Pass if that’s what you might be interested in. Disclaimer: worked on it
- r4id4 6y agoObsidian works on top of iCloud Keychain, so your data are not stored in some external server (except iCloud) as Authy does. The sync with iCloud works seamlessly and Obsidian features themes (also Dark) :) You can give Obsidian a try if you feel like!
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- cassianoleal 6y ago"Uses iCloud Keychain to communicate across devices. Your data are never transferred or stored in any external server." That cannot be true.
- PeterWhittaker 6y agoI'd love an explanation of that statement: if it uses iCloud, your data are stored on Apple's servers. Your data may be encrypted, but they are definitely being transferred from/to your devices and iCloud, and being stored there. I don't have a problem with this, I use iCloud for this purpose myself, but I do believe you are correct to call out this statement.
- r4id4 6y agoHi Peter, I see your point. Yeah it's actually true what you say, I didn't consider it as a "server". But you are right! In the statement I was meaning any "Obsidian" or third-party server! Sorry for the misunderstanding!
- cassianoleal 6y agoHi r4id4, Sorry I wrote in a bit of a rush and could have been more verbose. :) Thanks for acknowledging the mistake, it's a much better response than denying or dismissing. Just another small nitpick - iCloud's / Apple's servers are still a third-party servers since they are neither mine nor yours. Your app looks pretty nice though, I wish you success with it!
- r4id4 6y agoYou were right, there was nothing to deny ahah :) I've updated the copy and specified "apart from iCloud"
- r4id4 6y agoHi cassianleal, I'm the founder of Obsidian. The meaning of the statement is that users' data are not stored on some external database nor are transferred (even if temporarly) to any server. Communication happens only between Obsidian (app) and the iCloud keychain.
- endperform 6y agoI see there's an in-app purchase. Are any of the features limited by this? The site doesn't seem to mention it.
- r4id4 6y agoHi endperform, here are the perks of Obsidian Fusion (the in app purchase). Everything else is available in the standard version! - Daily Backups - Unlimited tokens - Clubhouse and Black themes - New features that will be rolled out in the near future
- OkGoDoIt 6y agoSo what’s the limit for the number of tokens and backup frequency without the subscription? Sad to see this as a subscription, seems easy to justify paying $5 one time but not $12 every year.
- r4id4 6y agoHi OkGoDoIt, free tier contains 5 tokens. I'm sorry you feel this way. Subscription model is a way to continue funding the developments and maintenance of the app. I've seen so many one-time payments app turn into subscriptions (e.g. 1Password etc) or be abandoned by the developers. $12/year or $1/month seemed a reasonable price for the service offered and what will come next, but I understand your point of view. I just want to keep the service level as high as possible.
- lourenci 6y agoWhat are the features on top of the in-app purchase?
- r4id4 6y agoHi lourenci, here is what you can obtain with Obsidian Fusion: - Daily Backups - Unlimited tokens - Clubhouse and Black themes - New features that will be rolled out in the near future
- jayross2730 6y agoThere's a typo/misspelling on page: https://obsidianapp.io/ https://obsidianapp.io/ Search for Kychain.
- r4id4 6y agoThanks jay! Will fix it!
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- kevincox 6y agoI'm curious about the "daily backups". Does this mean that if the data is deleted from the Apple Keychain the app has a local copy that can be reverted to?
- r4id4 6y agoHi Kevin, every time you make a change (ie add a new token, delete a token, rename a token) a snapshot is made and saved under the current date. These snapshots are then stored always in the iCloud Keychian. Anyway the Apple Keychain retain a local copy on the device, which means that even if in airplane mode Obsidian works by reading the local keychain.
- kevincox 6y agoThanks for clarifying. It seems like this will prevent some issues such as deleting the wrong token howver storing all of your "backups" in the same place as your primary storage (iCloud) is not a good strategy. If anything wiped your keychain it would be propagated to all your devices (unless you leave some on airplane mode) and you are now locked out of your accounts.
- r4id4 6y agoApple Keychain is key-value storage, Obsidian stores tokens and backups under different keys to be able to avoid erroneous overwrites or key corruption. Obviously if the whole keychain gets corrupted/wiped then there is no way to recover, but I find it unlikely, or at least never heard about it.