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Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

694 points by stanislavb 6y ago

s_dev 6y ago
Focal is the Irish for 'word'. Is that the etymology? 'Wordboard'?
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- CRConrad 6y ago
  It's also the English for ~"having, being in, or related to focus". So a meaning of "a board where important tasks are in focus" (or some such) seems at least as likely.
- curryst 6y ago
  I think they mean it as the adjective form of the English word "focus", as in "focal point". Instead of "focal point" it's a "focal board".
it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here! Huge thanks to everyone who's sharing feedback and comments. It is super exciting to be trending on HackerNews! We've just put up a new Wiki page for people to share feature ideas, to join our Discourse forum, and to report bugs: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...! Thank y'all so much for being interested in our project and our space! We've been working super hard to make something people love, and we'll continue to do so with your input and ideas!
- adontz 6y ago
  I have posted an enhancement https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/103 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/103 But cannot attach labels :-(
  - it33 6y ago
    Whoops, updating instructions: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...! Now asking folks to add `Enhancement:` prefix on tickets, and we can label after
    - it33 6y ago
      Okay, updating instructions to just prefix with "Feature Request:" and we'll take care of the labelling from there.
- qorrect 6y ago
  Thanks I love it!
- appleflaxen 6y ago
  Can you respond to the point made by Sneak downthread that there is silent data transfer to your company in the background?
- square_square 6y ago
  Is it OK to just copy the UX/UI from notion?
zze 6y ago
A good self-hosted alternative is https://kanbantool.com/kanban-tool-on-site https://kanbantool.com/kanban-tool-on-site - it launched back in 2009, has time tracking and allows for a lot of customization through SDK.
mkrishnan 6y ago
seems like a good tool but docker version would be nice.
cooperadymas 6y ago
I have not significantly used Notion, but this isn't really a replacement for it is it? Notion seems to be focused on wiki and notes, with built in structured data allowing you to setup things like boards and task lists. This seems to just be the boards and task lists without the free form notes and wiki? It pretty clearly replaces Trello and Asana. Notion seems like a stretch from the 5 minutes I poked around in it.
- gpas 6y ago
  I see it as a "faster" altrrnative to the kanban widget in Notion, clearly not a replacement. I use Notion to collect bookmarks, quotes, code, media, every bit of information I need for a project and despite its relative slowness and the lack of offline mode is serving me well.
thnok 6y ago
This looks pretty cool! Any chance of seeing a demo? Also do you have any recommended specs for self hosting?
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qwerty456127 6y ago
Do you offer hosted service? Is there a demo to try it without installing/subscribing?
redsummer 6y ago
Any CLI based solutions? Using ncurses or similar?
fangorn 6y ago
Just one letter changes and this whole project goes to sh*t.
ganessh 6y ago
This looks great! Can we have a docker image or instruction?
- it33 6y ago
  Focalboard team here, please see: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/96 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/96
1cvmask 6y ago
Looks cool. But you have split up the licenses as Apache and AGPL. Why the split? You could prevent the likes of AWS competition with a blanket AGPL etc... Am I missing something? Or is Apache license OSS some derivative work and from another project?
- jdc 6y ago
  Maybe it's a means of last resort to prevent the work from effectively going to waste in case of bankruptcy/low adoption?
- paxys 6y ago
  From what I can understand, if you host Focalboard on your server and update some configurations and templates to suit your needs, you are not required to open source these updates (which you would otherwise have to under AGPL) since those specific files are Apache 2.0 licensed.
  - 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
    i think AGPL only makes that requirement if you give out YOUR version to users. If you are just using for yourself or internal team, AGPL does not require you to publish those changes.
    - paxys 6y ago
      AGPL doesn't make any distinction between public vs private use. If software you write depends on or extends AGPL code, it must also be licensed as AGPL, period. You do only need to offer the source code to users of the software, but that is still a burden, especially when all you are doing is updating config files.
      - kdmytro 6y ago
        If I use the software privately, can we just say that I as the only user distributed the modified code to myself automatically?
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AnonHP 6y ago
It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are only available through the respective app stores on these two platforms.
- it33 6y ago
  Focalboard team here. Thanks for the feedback! Opened feature idea ticket on this here: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99
- pbreit 6y ago
  Downloading from app store is about as easy as it gets.
  - paxys 6y ago
    I take it you have never tried using the Windows Store.
  - eps 6y ago
    No, it's not. Requires a sign-up and comes with other cruft unrelated to the actual download.
    - bickeringyokel 6y ago
      Last time I used it was to test that my companies app could be downloaded from it. Well it wouldn't let me sign in using my existing outlook account apparently because we use our company domain name. So I had to create a completely separate microsoft domain account. Pretty annoying.
- sneak 6y ago
  It's a major bummer when devs don't even let you download the app from their own website, instead suggesting that you dox yourself to Apple to use their software. :( Mattermost (the company behind this) also builds spyware into Mattermost (which is not well documented) and I would be unsurprised to find the same nonsense going on with this. Is there a term for companies that are "open source in license only" that ignore all of the values of the free software community? If you download the app store version, and you edit the source code of the downloaded app to, say, scratch an itch, it will not run any longer because the app bundle signature verification will fail. Distributing unmodifiable applications defeats the whole purpose of a free software license.
nickysielicki 6y ago
It's easy to miss that this is by the same people making Mattermost, the open-source self-hosted slack alternative you might have heard of. https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard
- Reventlov 6y ago
  So should we expect them to roll out some community edition lacking essential features to kind of force people to use the (paying, closed-source) entreprise edition ? Some basic features have been wanted for years in the mattermost CE edition, while being implemented in the EE edition, like the capability to prevent users to kick other users from channels ( https://forum.mattermost.org/t/users-can-kick-other-users-off-a-channel/4773/6 https://forum.mattermost.org/t/users-can-kick-other-users-of... ).
  - andrewSC 6y ago
    The one I got bit by yesterday was team-edition not offering basic HA/cluster functionality. Oh well, vertical scaling here I come! Also, i’m not sure if the helm chart is officially maintained or a community-only effort, however, I’d love to see the addition of being able to configure/use imagePullSecrets. Also, general fixes to the values yaml.
  - CodeMage 6y ago
    I'm curious about something: would there be any hidden gotchas involved if someone forked the Mattermost repo, and added features like that? I understand not wanting to spend the effort on implementing and maintaining these changes, I'm just trying to figure out if there's any other reason for not doing it. From what I can see, the license is APL 2.0, which I think shouldn't forbid that, but IANAL (or expert on working in open source).
  - s__s 6y ago
    The cool thing about open source is you can add any feature you want yourself.
- rtpg 6y ago
Aeolun 6y ago
This would be easier to test out if I could just run a docker image instead of doing a whole nginx configuration.
- igetspam 6y ago
  What's stopping you? Run nginx in a container and mount the config dir as a volume. [EDIT] Someone did it already: https://github.com/PaperStork/focalboard/pull/1/commits/6452a0de742292ad822569d993748cc7fa38c471 https://github.com/PaperStork/focalboard/pull/1/commits/6452...
- aidenn0 6y ago
  nginx? I did the following and it ran just fine: make webapp make bin/focalboard-server
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    The server installation instructions start with configuring nginx to do something. That’s where I bounced.
- qbasic_forever 6y ago
  Yeah the server install instructions are a bit out of date it seems. It doesn't mention you need to run the 'make webapp' task to run webpack and generate the bundled HTML page. It also has you download an old version (0.5) and the docs on the config don't match what's in the repo now (with version 0.6.1). Anyways, here's a Dockerfile I whipped up that builds and runs a local version configured to use sqlite. No nginx or other stuff, it's just simple localhost config (not production ready): # Focalboard v0.6.1 requires node 10+ FROM node:15-buster-slim # Focalboard source to clone. ARG FOCALBOARD_REPO="https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard.git" ARG FOCALBOARD_BRANCH="v0.6.1" # Focalboard v0.6.1 requires make. RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y \ gcc \ git \ make \ && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* # Focalboard v0.6.1 requires go 1.15+ COPY --from=golang:1.16-buster /usr/local/go /usr/local/go ENV PATH="/usr/local/go/bin:$PATH" # Clone focalboard. WORKDIR /opt/focalboard RUN git clone --depth 1 --branch $FOCALBOARD_BRANCH $FOCALBOARD_REPO . # Build focalboard. RUN make prebuild \ && make webapp \ && make # Setup a localhost configuration with sqlite. RUN echo '{\ "serverRoot": "http://localhost:8000",\n\ "port": 8000,\n\ "dbtype": "sqlite3",\n\ "dbconfig": "/data/focalboard.db",\n\ "useSSL": false,\n\ "webpath": "./webapp/pack",\n\ "filespath": "/files",\n\ "telemetry": true,\n\ "session_expire_time": 2592000,\n\ "session_refresh_time": 18000,\n\ "localOnly": false,\n\ "enableLocalMode": true,\n\ "localModeSocketLocation": "/var/tmp/focalboard_local.socket"\n\ }' > /opt/focalboard/config.json # Uploaded files are stored here. VOLUME /files # Sqlite database is stored here. VOLUME /data CMD ["/opt/focalboard/bin/focalboard-server"] It will need a volume at /files for uploaded file storage, and /data for its sqlite database. It exposes a server on port 8000, and an admin API unix socket on /var/tmp/focalboard_local.socket (read their docs for what it's useful for, like resetting passwords). The Dockerfile should be multiarch, but I can only test on amd64. Low spec hardware (raspberry pi) might struggle a bit with the build as it's a non-trivial go server build, and then production webpack bundle... weird failures might be OOM issues. Here's an example of a basic build and run, saving the files and db to a local directory: <copy Dockerfile contents above to file> docker build -t focalboard . docker run --rm -p 8000:8000 -v $PWD/files:/files -v $PWD/data:/data focalboard Access http://localhost:8000 http://localhost:8000 and it will let you create a new user account. (go wild with the Dockerfile above, I release it in public domain)
hpen 6y ago
Ha I have an open source Trello alternative called kanception.io or https://github.com/hpennington/kanception https://github.com/hpennington/kanception
- hpen 6y ago
  The twist is that it's recursive (nested)
mandiantBob 6y ago
I just downloaded and tested the standalone desktop app. It has a very pretty and responsive interface compared to Kanboard. I have been self hosting Kanboard on my rpi for my own work, and I think that Kanboard still has many 'poweruser' features that Focalboard is missing. If there is an easy way for me to migrate my Kanboard data over to Focalboard, I would definitely give it a shot as a daily driver.
- it33 6y ago
  Focalboard team here, thanks for the idea! Added an enhancement ticket for this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/95 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/95 Open to other feedback as well! https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!
Brendinooo 6y ago
Nice. I was using Wekan for awhile until I ignored Heroku telling me that they were getting rid of the free MongoDB service, then I lost all of my data. Maybe I'll have to try this instead.
- selcuka 6y ago
  Can't you use MongoDB Atlas free tier? https://www.mongodb.com/pricing https://www.mongodb.com/pricing
  - Brendinooo 6y ago
    Perhaps, but my data's already gone.
    - asya999 6y ago
      I don't think that's the case. You should e-mail support@mlab.com and ask them to help you get a copy of your data.
- johnx123-up 6y ago
  Restyaboard is having import option for other software including Wekan. So, you may easily migrate from Wekan to Restyaboard to avoid that.
jasonjayr 6y ago
In the same category as 'self-hosted trello', I found "Planka" not to long ago, and as a self-hosted trello/kanban/todo board, it was pretty easy to boot up and has worked for my simple purposes for the last few months.... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24812900 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24812900
avinassh 6y ago
Would it be nice if it was possible to import existing data from Trello and Notion
- deftnerd 6y ago
  They have scripts to import from Asana, Notion, and Trello https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/import https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/import
sali0 6y ago
This is awesome. This with good integration with Mattermost (or discord) would serve the needs for a lot of teams. Notion could as well but they are a slow moving beast with different priorities.
- orthoxerox 6y ago
  I would be surprised if it doesn't integrate natively with Mattermost, given that it's made by the same company.
yumraj 6y ago
I wonder why the Mac OS desktop app requires 10.15? I'm assuming it's just an electron app.
- mynegation 6y ago
  Not sure about version requirement but you can find that Mac app is written in Swift: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/mac https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/mac and Windows application in C# uses WPF: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/win-wpf https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/win-wpf Linux app seems to be just a local server supposedly with web browser as an interface.
  - yumraj 6y ago
    Yes, github repo also mentions Catalina (10.15) and XCode 12+. So, Swift would explain that..
  - yblu 6y ago
    Both these apps contain a few source files and all they do seem to be rendering and handling a webview. The "real" app seems to be this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/webapp https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/webapp.
mraza007 6y ago
I’m just surprised few weeks ago i was looking at self hosted notion/trello like alternatives and now I just came across this. The project just looks really cool and I’m definitely going to download and try this. I just wanted to thank the developers from the bottom of my heart for creating this. Lastly I’m just curious is it possible to host this on a raspberry pi
- it33 6y ago
  Focalboard team here, thank you so much for the recognition! We're working super hard to build something that benefits our community. While there's not formal support for Raspberry Pi right now, we'd welcome a the feature idea, here's more on how to share feedback: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!
  - mraza007 6y ago
    hey man, thanks for replying I loved the product and I would love to try it out on raspberry pi and I will add that as a feature request
  - mraza007 6y ago
    hey I finally have a instance of Focalboard https://twitter.com/muhammad_o7/status/1372781058995806210?s=20 https://twitter.com/muhammad_o7/status/1372781058995806210?s...
- aidenn0 6y ago
  Looks like this needs Go, Webpack and an SQL server (with sqlite3 being the out-of-the-box default). That all should run on the RPI.
orliesaurus 6y ago
I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...
- KitDuncan 6y ago
  I am not sure Focalboard has the features you are looking for, but outline wiki is a cool notion like wiki and pretty fast.
- movedx 6y ago
  I've actually just started using Notion and the UI is nice, as is the feature set, but yeah, I'm getting a little annoyed by the constant page loads. I mean this kind of thing continues to fuel my beliefs that software is going backwards here because frankly, how hard can it be to render some text?
  - jfim 6y ago
    > how hard can it be to render some text? It really depends. If the only thing you care about rendering is US ASCII with a monospace bitmapped font, that's not too hard. However, a general purpose text renderer will have to handle things like directionality (left to right versus right to left text orientation), wide/half text rendering (for CJK characters), combining characters (for some European, South East Asian languages, and zalgo), line break rules (handling characters like soft hyphens and non breaking spaces), and so on. On the font rendering side of things, there's kerning (some letters are closer to one another), font ligatures (certain fonts handle things like fi ffi fl ffl differently, not to mention things like hasklig), antialiasing, sub pixel rendering, and the fact that fonts are actually programs running on a stack based virtual machine [0]. That's also ignoring more advanced text rendering features like ruby characters and vertical text rendering. Or that apparently Turkish has different small caps than English ones [1]. In practice, it's probably not the text rendering that's the issue, it's probably just features that are implemented inefficiently. [0] https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/RM03/Chap3.html#font_program https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/... [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opentype/spec/ttochap1#opentype-layout-terminology https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opentype/spec/tt...
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raggi 6y ago
The licensing notions in this project are nonsense.
- paxys 6y ago
  I need to hire a lawyer just to figure out if I can use this thing or not. The opening of https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.t... mentions 4 separate licenses. And is it just me or does this part mean absolutely nothing: > We promise that we will not enforce the copyleft provisions in AGPL v3.0 against you if your application (a) does not link to Focalboard directly, but exclusively uses Focalboard's Admin Tools and Configuration Files, and (b) you have not modified, added to or adapted the source code of Focalboard in a way that results in the creation of a “modified version” or “work based on” Focalboard as these terms are defined in the AGPL v3.0 license.
  - em-bee 6y ago
    doesn't (a) mean the admintools should not be under the AGPL? i wonder why they couldn't just specify an appropriate license instead. and does (b) mean that when i host focalboard myself, i would be allowed to hide the fact from my users? what other benefit is there from not enforcing the AGPL against me? if the AGPL is in applied to the unmodified version, then my users would get the original source and whether they got it from me or from upstream. so i don't see the benefit of nonenforcement
- dybber 6y ago
  So it’s like: MIT for compiled application, AGPL if you build it yourself, or you can pay for less strict licensing. Seems similar to the model used e.g. by Qt https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.t... EDIT: Use of dual licensing for open source software was previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24677481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24677481
- squeaky-clean 6y ago
  "We promise that we will not enforce the copyleft provisions in AGPL v3.0 against you if [....]" Does a promise like this actually stand up in a license file / in court? Is this sentence actually meaningful?
eps 6y ago
> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.
- it33 6y ago
  Focalboard team here, Hi @eps, I've opened a ticket on this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 Would you be open to giving a "Thumbs Up" and/or a comment sharing more about the benefits? Community feedback is super important, and we would love to hear more from you and others
- jpambrun 6y ago
  Most importantly, while I have admin privileges and can install some software, my corporate machine has the windows store disabled.
- The_rationalist 6y ago
  Nonsense, package managers enable trivial and fine grained update policies
  - mjthompson 6y ago
    You might want to add a qualifier to 'package managers', like 'good package managers'... which the Windows Store is not. It barely fits the bill as a package manager.
    - indigodaddy 6y ago
      Scoop is the way to go
  - nightowl_games 6y ago
    They didn't say anything about the quality of the service, they mentioned the low popularity.
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unsungNovelty 6y ago
https://www.openproject.org/ https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not known? Would love to hear more from the HN community on this.
- blowski 6y ago
  What's the problem with fragmentation? I guess you're thinking of wasted effort, split mindshare amongst users. But for me, fragmentation is one of the key benefits of open source. Let thousands of alternatives bloom!
  - alpaca128 6y ago
    Absolutely. I have grown to dislike this often repeated "don't reinvent the wheel" stance. After some thought you realise 100% of mastering any art is based on imitating and rebuilding existing achievements, because that gives us the basis for aiming even higher with our own ideas. When we blindly copy our own "Hello World" program into a text file nobody bats an eye. When a group of musicians play a metal song on classical instruments it's called a cover. But when someone builds their own database to have some fun and get better in-depth understanding of the tech you will always find someone whining about the not-invented-here-syndrome. Effort isn't wasted just because it didn't change the world.
  - tfehring 6y ago
    Also confusion and decision paralysis for new users, as well as limiting new features to only a subset of users unless someone takes the time to re-implement them. And lots of FOSS projects end up as abandonware, and consolidation can increase the share of users whose software is actively maintained. Split mindshare is also a big deal for applications with strong network effects, though probably not for something like this.
sneak 6y ago
Note: this, although self-hosted, appears to transmit your usage data without consent (just like the selfhosted Mattermost server from the same people): https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/server/services/telemetry/telemetry.go https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/server/se... Anyone want to offer me odds on the likelihood of a patch removing this spyware getting accepted by the maintainer in this “open source” project?
- bluefirebrand 6y ago
  Thank you for posting this. I was very interested in this. There's no way I'm using it now. I'll never trust anything from Mattermost. Maybe it still counts as open source but with this, plus their complex licensing, I feel it runs very counter to what the FOSS community actually wants
- fimdomeio 6y ago
  Apparently there's a config option to turn off telemetry. https://www.focalboard.com/guide/admin/ https://www.focalboard.com/guide/admin/ While I understand the feeling, it's also truth that these kinds of projects appear to receive a lot more criticism than if they went completely closed source which feels a bit unfair.
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    Every single time someone asks me if they can turn on telemetry I’m perfectly ok with it. But if they default to on I know what I’m dealing with and I don’t want them to have it.
  - sneak 6y ago
    > Apparently there's a config option to turn off telemetry. The option should be to turn it on; automatically "opting users in" (a euphemism; really, it's assuming consent which does not exist) to spyware is at best unethical and in some jurisdictions actually illegal. Co-opting a user's own hardware and connection to (silently!) spy on them is a total dickhead move whether your product is free software or proprietary.
aquir 6y ago
I am using Atlassian's free plans for Jira, Confluence and Service Management. They are great!
- johnx123-up 6y ago
  FWIW, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25590846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25590846
kogepathic 6y ago
The installation instructions for the server install don't seem to work. > wget https://releases.mattermost.com/focalboard/0.5.0/focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz https://releases.mattermost.com/focalboard/0.5.0/focalboard-... > tar -xvzf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz The file is actually a zip with the tar.gz inside: focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract $ unzip -l focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz Archive: focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz Length Date Time Name --------- ---------- ----- ---- 12461347 02-02-2021 00:38 focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz -------- ------- 12461347 1 files Running tar directly (as written in the instructions) will fail with: $ tar -tzvf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz tar: invalid magic tar: short read It seems like there's something unintentionally producing a zip at the end of the build process.
- it33 6y ago
  Focalboard team here, Hi @kogepathic, sorry about that, adding your report as a ticket here: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/94 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/94
- Aeolun 6y ago
  It’s impressive they knew of this (original bug is 20hr old) but still decided to go ahead and post on HN.
- cyberlurker 6y ago
  Thank you, I was trying to figure this out.
mosselman 6y ago
Deleting a board is possible, but there is no confirm and no way to restore. Very dangerous!
- bachmeier 6y ago
  Only for people that make mistakes.
johnx123-up 6y ago
FWIW, more alternatives are listed here https://alternativeshub.gitlab.io/kanban-board/ https://alternativeshub.gitlab.io/kanban-board/ with comparison ranking. IIRC, they're sourced from the awesome list
- diacritica 6y ago
  A pity that website looks very outdated.
riho 6y ago
Welp.
- it33 6y ago
  Focalboard team here. Hi @riho, thanks for your feedback. One key piece of feedback we've heard is that other SaaS-based project management tools can run slow. Because of this, one concept we're testing out is "Focalboard Personal Desktop" where you can run the software locally. You can download the v0.6 version from the Windows Store or Apple AppStore to try it out. We would love your feedback. Also, if you're interested in influencing the project, please consider submitting a ticket with type `enhancement` with what you'd like to see: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues
  - riho 6y ago
    That's fair enough, "x, but actually fast" is definitely a strong selling point and a differentiator in my book. That wasn't mentioned on the landing page.
    - it33 6y ago
      Focalboard team here, agree with your feedback! Updated README on this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/commit/5c802347be8a7906255d55a45c1f66f0ebbe7874#diff-b335630551682c19a781afebcf4d07bf978fb1f8ac04c6bf87428ed5106870f5 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/commit/5c802347be8a...

694 points by stanislavb 6y ago

s_dev 6y ago

Focal is the Irish for 'word'. Is that the etymology? 'Wordboard'?

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CRConrad 6y ago
It's also the English for ~"having, being in, or related to focus". So a meaning of "a board where important tasks are in focus" (or some such) seems at least as likely.
curryst 6y ago
I think they mean it as the adjective form of the English word "focus", as in "focal point". Instead of "focal point" it's a "focal board".

it33 6y ago

Focalboard team here! Huge thanks to everyone who's sharing feedback and comments. It is super exciting to be trending on HackerNews! We've just put up a new Wiki page for people to share feature ideas, to join our Discourse forum, and to report bugs: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...! Thank y'all so much for being interested in our project and our space! We've been working super hard to make something people love, and we'll continue to do so with your input and ideas!

adontz 6y ago
I have posted an enhancement https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/103 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/103 But cannot attach labels :-(
- it33 6y ago
  Whoops, updating instructions: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...! Now asking folks to add `Enhancement:` prefix on tickets, and we can label after
  - it33 6y ago
    Okay, updating instructions to just prefix with "Feature Request:" and we'll take care of the labelling from there.
qorrect 6y ago
Thanks I love it!
appleflaxen 6y ago
Can you respond to the point made by Sneak downthread that there is silent data transfer to your company in the background?
square_square 6y ago
Is it OK to just copy the UX/UI from notion?

zze 6y ago

A good self-hosted alternative is https://kanbantool.com/kanban-tool-on-site https://kanbantool.com/kanban-tool-on-site - it launched back in 2009, has time tracking and allows for a lot of customization through SDK.

mkrishnan 6y ago

seems like a good tool but docker version would be nice.

cooperadymas 6y ago

I have not significantly used Notion, but this isn't really a replacement for it is it? Notion seems to be focused on wiki and notes, with built in structured data allowing you to setup things like boards and task lists. This seems to just be the boards and task lists without the free form notes and wiki? It pretty clearly replaces Trello and Asana. Notion seems like a stretch from the 5 minutes I poked around in it.

gpas 6y ago
I see it as a "faster" altrrnative to the kanban widget in Notion, clearly not a replacement. I use Notion to collect bookmarks, quotes, code, media, every bit of information I need for a project and despite its relative slowness and the lack of offline mode is serving me well.

thnok 6y ago

This looks pretty cool! Any chance of seeing a demo? Also do you have any recommended specs for self hosting?

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qwerty456127 6y ago

Do you offer hosted service? Is there a demo to try it without installing/subscribing?

redsummer 6y ago

Any CLI based solutions? Using ncurses or similar?

fangorn 6y ago

Just one letter changes and this whole project goes to sh*t.

ganessh 6y ago

This looks great! Can we have a docker image or instruction?

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here, please see: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/96 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/96

1cvmask 6y ago

Looks cool. But you have split up the licenses as Apache and AGPL. Why the split? You could prevent the likes of AWS competition with a blanket AGPL etc... Am I missing something? Or is Apache license OSS some derivative work and from another project?

jdc 6y ago
Maybe it's a means of last resort to prevent the work from effectively going to waste in case of bankruptcy/low adoption?
paxys 6y ago
From what I can understand, if you host Focalboard on your server and update some configurations and templates to suit your needs, you are not required to open source these updates (which you would otherwise have to under AGPL) since those specific files are Apache 2.0 licensed.
- 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
  i think AGPL only makes that requirement if you give out YOUR version to users. If you are just using for yourself or internal team, AGPL does not require you to publish those changes.
  - paxys 6y ago
    AGPL doesn't make any distinction between public vs private use. If software you write depends on or extends AGPL code, it must also be licensed as AGPL, period. You do only need to offer the source code to users of the software, but that is still a burden, especially when all you are doing is updating config files.
    - kdmytro 6y ago
      If I use the software privately, can we just say that I as the only user distributed the modified code to myself automatically?
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AnonHP 6y ago

It would’ve been more convenient to me if this project provided standalone downloads for macOS and Windows. The current downloads for the Desktop version are only available through the respective app stores on these two platforms.

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here. Thanks for the feedback! Opened feature idea ticket on this here: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99
pbreit 6y ago
Downloading from app store is about as easy as it gets.
- paxys 6y ago
  I take it you have never tried using the Windows Store.
- eps 6y ago
  No, it's not. Requires a sign-up and comes with other cruft unrelated to the actual download.
  - bickeringyokel 6y ago
    Last time I used it was to test that my companies app could be downloaded from it. Well it wouldn't let me sign in using my existing outlook account apparently because we use our company domain name. So I had to create a completely separate microsoft domain account. Pretty annoying.
sneak 6y ago
It's a major bummer when devs don't even let you download the app from their own website, instead suggesting that you dox yourself to Apple to use their software. :( Mattermost (the company behind this) also builds spyware into Mattermost (which is not well documented) and I would be unsurprised to find the same nonsense going on with this. Is there a term for companies that are "open source in license only" that ignore all of the values of the free software community? If you download the app store version, and you edit the source code of the downloaded app to, say, scratch an itch, it will not run any longer because the app bundle signature verification will fail. Distributing unmodifiable applications defeats the whole purpose of a free software license.

nickysielicki 6y ago

It's easy to miss that this is by the same people making Mattermost, the open-source self-hosted slack alternative you might have heard of. https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard

Reventlov 6y ago
So should we expect them to roll out some community edition lacking essential features to kind of force people to use the (paying, closed-source) entreprise edition ? Some basic features have been wanted for years in the mattermost CE edition, while being implemented in the EE edition, like the capability to prevent users to kick other users from channels ( https://forum.mattermost.org/t/users-can-kick-other-users-off-a-channel/4773/6 https://forum.mattermost.org/t/users-can-kick-other-users-of... ).
- andrewSC 6y ago
  The one I got bit by yesterday was team-edition not offering basic HA/cluster functionality. Oh well, vertical scaling here I come! Also, i’m not sure if the helm chart is officially maintained or a community-only effort, however, I’d love to see the addition of being able to configure/use imagePullSecrets. Also, general fixes to the values yaml.
- CodeMage 6y ago
  I'm curious about something: would there be any hidden gotchas involved if someone forked the Mattermost repo, and added features like that? I understand not wanting to spend the effort on implementing and maintaining these changes, I'm just trying to figure out if there's any other reason for not doing it. From what I can see, the license is APL 2.0, which I think shouldn't forbid that, but IANAL (or expert on working in open source).
- s__s 6y ago
  The cool thing about open source is you can add any feature you want yourself.
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Aeolun 6y ago

This would be easier to test out if I could just run a docker image instead of doing a whole nginx configuration.

igetspam 6y ago
What's stopping you? Run nginx in a container and mount the config dir as a volume. [EDIT] Someone did it already: https://github.com/PaperStork/focalboard/pull/1/commits/6452a0de742292ad822569d993748cc7fa38c471 https://github.com/PaperStork/focalboard/pull/1/commits/6452...
aidenn0 6y ago
nginx? I did the following and it ran just fine: make webapp make bin/focalboard-server
- Aeolun 6y ago
  The server installation instructions start with configuring nginx to do something. That’s where I bounced.
qbasic_forever 6y ago
Yeah the server install instructions are a bit out of date it seems. It doesn't mention you need to run the 'make webapp' task to run webpack and generate the bundled HTML page. It also has you download an old version (0.5) and the docs on the config don't match what's in the repo now (with version 0.6.1). Anyways, here's a Dockerfile I whipped up that builds and runs a local version configured to use sqlite. No nginx or other stuff, it's just simple localhost config (not production ready): # Focalboard v0.6.1 requires node 10+ FROM node:15-buster-slim # Focalboard source to clone. ARG FOCALBOARD_REPO="https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard.git" ARG FOCALBOARD_BRANCH="v0.6.1" # Focalboard v0.6.1 requires make. RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y \ gcc \ git \ make \ && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* # Focalboard v0.6.1 requires go 1.15+ COPY --from=golang:1.16-buster /usr/local/go /usr/local/go ENV PATH="/usr/local/go/bin:$PATH" # Clone focalboard. WORKDIR /opt/focalboard RUN git clone --depth 1 --branch $FOCALBOARD_BRANCH $FOCALBOARD_REPO . # Build focalboard. RUN make prebuild \ && make webapp \ && make # Setup a localhost configuration with sqlite. RUN echo '{\ "serverRoot": "http://localhost:8000",\n\ "port": 8000,\n\ "dbtype": "sqlite3",\n\ "dbconfig": "/data/focalboard.db",\n\ "useSSL": false,\n\ "webpath": "./webapp/pack",\n\ "filespath": "/files",\n\ "telemetry": true,\n\ "session_expire_time": 2592000,\n\ "session_refresh_time": 18000,\n\ "localOnly": false,\n\ "enableLocalMode": true,\n\ "localModeSocketLocation": "/var/tmp/focalboard_local.socket"\n\ }' > /opt/focalboard/config.json # Uploaded files are stored here. VOLUME /files # Sqlite database is stored here. VOLUME /data CMD ["/opt/focalboard/bin/focalboard-server"] It will need a volume at /files for uploaded file storage, and /data for its sqlite database. It exposes a server on port 8000, and an admin API unix socket on /var/tmp/focalboard_local.socket (read their docs for what it's useful for, like resetting passwords). The Dockerfile should be multiarch, but I can only test on amd64. Low spec hardware (raspberry pi) might struggle a bit with the build as it's a non-trivial go server build, and then production webpack bundle... weird failures might be OOM issues. Here's an example of a basic build and run, saving the files and db to a local directory: <copy Dockerfile contents above to file> docker build -t focalboard . docker run --rm -p 8000:8000 -v $PWD/files:/files -v $PWD/data:/data focalboard Access http://localhost:8000 http://localhost:8000 and it will let you create a new user account. (go wild with the Dockerfile above, I release it in public domain)

hpen 6y ago

Ha I have an open source Trello alternative called kanception.io or https://github.com/hpennington/kanception https://github.com/hpennington/kanception

hpen 6y ago
The twist is that it's recursive (nested)

mandiantBob 6y ago

I just downloaded and tested the standalone desktop app. It has a very pretty and responsive interface compared to Kanboard. I have been self hosting Kanboard on my rpi for my own work, and I think that Kanboard still has many 'poweruser' features that Focalboard is missing. If there is an easy way for me to migrate my Kanboard data over to Focalboard, I would definitely give it a shot as a daily driver.

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here, thanks for the idea! Added an enhancement ticket for this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/95 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/95 Open to other feedback as well! https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!

Brendinooo 6y ago

Nice. I was using Wekan for awhile until I ignored Heroku telling me that they were getting rid of the free MongoDB service, then I lost all of my data. Maybe I'll have to try this instead.

selcuka 6y ago
Can't you use MongoDB Atlas free tier? https://www.mongodb.com/pricing https://www.mongodb.com/pricing
- Brendinooo 6y ago
  Perhaps, but my data's already gone.
  - asya999 6y ago
    I don't think that's the case. You should e-mail support@mlab.com and ask them to help you get a copy of your data.
johnx123-up 6y ago
Restyaboard is having import option for other software including Wekan. So, you may easily migrate from Wekan to Restyaboard to avoid that.

jasonjayr 6y ago

In the same category as 'self-hosted trello', I found "Planka" not to long ago, and as a self-hosted trello/kanban/todo board, it was pretty easy to boot up and has worked for my simple purposes for the last few months.... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24812900 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24812900

avinassh 6y ago

Would it be nice if it was possible to import existing data from Trello and Notion

deftnerd 6y ago
They have scripts to import from Asana, Notion, and Trello https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/import https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/import

sali0 6y ago

This is awesome. This with good integration with Mattermost (or discord) would serve the needs for a lot of teams. Notion could as well but they are a slow moving beast with different priorities.

orthoxerox 6y ago
I would be surprised if it doesn't integrate natively with Mattermost, given that it's made by the same company.

yumraj 6y ago

I wonder why the Mac OS desktop app requires 10.15? I'm assuming it's just an electron app.

mynegation 6y ago
Not sure about version requirement but you can find that Mac app is written in Swift: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/mac https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/mac and Windows application in C# uses WPF: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/win-wpf https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/win-wpf Linux app seems to be just a local server supposedly with web browser as an interface.
- yumraj 6y ago
  Yes, github repo also mentions Catalina (10.15) and XCode 12+. So, Swift would explain that..
- yblu 6y ago
  Both these apps contain a few source files and all they do seem to be rendering and handling a webview. The "real" app seems to be this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/webapp https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/tree/main/webapp.

mraza007 6y ago

I’m just surprised few weeks ago i was looking at self hosted notion/trello like alternatives and now I just came across this. The project just looks really cool and I’m definitely going to download and try this. I just wanted to thank the developers from the bottom of my heart for creating this. Lastly I’m just curious is it possible to host this on a raspberry pi

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here, thank you so much for the recognition! We're working super hard to build something that benefits our community. While there's not formal support for Raspberry Pi right now, we'd welcome a the feature idea, here's more on how to share feedback: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-feedback https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/wiki/Share-your-fee...!
- mraza007 6y ago
  hey man, thanks for replying I loved the product and I would love to try it out on raspberry pi and I will add that as a feature request
- mraza007 6y ago
  hey I finally have a instance of Focalboard https://twitter.com/muhammad_o7/status/1372781058995806210?s=20 https://twitter.com/muhammad_o7/status/1372781058995806210?s...
aidenn0 6y ago
Looks like this needs Go, Webpack and an SQL server (with sqlite3 being the out-of-the-box default). That all should run on the RPI.

orliesaurus 6y ago

I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...

KitDuncan 6y ago
I am not sure Focalboard has the features you are looking for, but outline wiki is a cool notion like wiki and pretty fast.
movedx 6y ago
I've actually just started using Notion and the UI is nice, as is the feature set, but yeah, I'm getting a little annoyed by the constant page loads. I mean this kind of thing continues to fuel my beliefs that software is going backwards here because frankly, how hard can it be to render some text?
- jfim 6y ago
  > how hard can it be to render some text? It really depends. If the only thing you care about rendering is US ASCII with a monospace bitmapped font, that's not too hard. However, a general purpose text renderer will have to handle things like directionality (left to right versus right to left text orientation), wide/half text rendering (for CJK characters), combining characters (for some European, South East Asian languages, and zalgo), line break rules (handling characters like soft hyphens and non breaking spaces), and so on. On the font rendering side of things, there's kerning (some letters are closer to one another), font ligatures (certain fonts handle things like fi ffi fl ffl differently, not to mention things like hasklig), antialiasing, sub pixel rendering, and the fact that fonts are actually programs running on a stack based virtual machine [0]. That's also ignoring more advanced text rendering features like ruby characters and vertical text rendering. Or that apparently Turkish has different small caps than English ones [1]. In practice, it's probably not the text rendering that's the issue, it's probably just features that are implemented inefficiently. [0] https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/RM03/Chap3.html#font_program https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/... [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opentype/spec/ttochap1#opentype-layout-terminology https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opentype/spec/tt...

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raggi 6y ago

The licensing notions in this project are nonsense.

paxys 6y ago
I need to hire a lawyer just to figure out if I can use this thing or not. The opening of https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.t... mentions 4 separate licenses. And is it just me or does this part mean absolutely nothing: > We promise that we will not enforce the copyleft provisions in AGPL v3.0 against you if your application (a) does not link to Focalboard directly, but exclusively uses Focalboard's Admin Tools and Configuration Files, and (b) you have not modified, added to or adapted the source code of Focalboard in a way that results in the creation of a “modified version” or “work based on” Focalboard as these terms are defined in the AGPL v3.0 license.
- em-bee 6y ago
  doesn't (a) mean the admintools should not be under the AGPL? i wonder why they couldn't just specify an appropriate license instead. and does (b) mean that when i host focalboard myself, i would be allowed to hide the fact from my users? what other benefit is there from not enforcing the AGPL against me? if the AGPL is in applied to the unmodified version, then my users would get the original source and whether they got it from me or from upstream. so i don't see the benefit of nonenforcement
dybber 6y ago
So it’s like: MIT for compiled application, AGPL if you build it yourself, or you can pay for less strict licensing. Seems similar to the model used e.g. by Qt https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/LICENSE.t... EDIT: Use of dual licensing for open source software was previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24677481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24677481
squeaky-clean 6y ago
"We promise that we will not enforce the copyleft provisions in AGPL v3.0 against you if [....]" Does a promise like this actually stand up in a license file / in court? Is this sentence actually meaningful?

eps 6y ago

> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here, Hi @eps, I've opened a ticket on this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/99 Would you be open to giving a "Thumbs Up" and/or a comment sharing more about the benefits? Community feedback is super important, and we would love to hear more from you and others
jpambrun 6y ago
Most importantly, while I have admin privileges and can install some software, my corporate machine has the windows store disabled.
The_rationalist 6y ago
Nonsense, package managers enable trivial and fine grained update policies
- mjthompson 6y ago
  You might want to add a qualifier to 'package managers', like 'good package managers'... which the Windows Store is not. It barely fits the bill as a package manager.
  - indigodaddy 6y ago
    Scoop is the way to go
- nightowl_games 6y ago
  They didn't say anything about the quality of the service, they mentioned the low popularity.
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unsungNovelty 6y ago

https://www.openproject.org/ https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not known? Would love to hear more from the HN community on this.

blowski 6y ago
What's the problem with fragmentation? I guess you're thinking of wasted effort, split mindshare amongst users. But for me, fragmentation is one of the key benefits of open source. Let thousands of alternatives bloom!
- alpaca128 6y ago
  Absolutely. I have grown to dislike this often repeated "don't reinvent the wheel" stance. After some thought you realise 100% of mastering any art is based on imitating and rebuilding existing achievements, because that gives us the basis for aiming even higher with our own ideas. When we blindly copy our own "Hello World" program into a text file nobody bats an eye. When a group of musicians play a metal song on classical instruments it's called a cover. But when someone builds their own database to have some fun and get better in-depth understanding of the tech you will always find someone whining about the not-invented-here-syndrome. Effort isn't wasted just because it didn't change the world.
- tfehring 6y ago
  Also confusion and decision paralysis for new users, as well as limiting new features to only a subset of users unless someone takes the time to re-implement them. And lots of FOSS projects end up as abandonware, and consolidation can increase the share of users whose software is actively maintained. Split mindshare is also a big deal for applications with strong network effects, though probably not for something like this.

sneak 6y ago

Note: this, although self-hosted, appears to transmit your usage data without consent (just like the selfhosted Mattermost server from the same people): https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/server/services/telemetry/telemetry.go https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/server/se... Anyone want to offer me odds on the likelihood of a patch removing this spyware getting accepted by the maintainer in this “open source” project?

bluefirebrand 6y ago
Thank you for posting this. I was very interested in this. There's no way I'm using it now. I'll never trust anything from Mattermost. Maybe it still counts as open source but with this, plus their complex licensing, I feel it runs very counter to what the FOSS community actually wants
fimdomeio 6y ago
Apparently there's a config option to turn off telemetry. https://www.focalboard.com/guide/admin/ https://www.focalboard.com/guide/admin/ While I understand the feeling, it's also truth that these kinds of projects appear to receive a lot more criticism than if they went completely closed source which feels a bit unfair.
- Aeolun 6y ago
  Every single time someone asks me if they can turn on telemetry I’m perfectly ok with it. But if they default to on I know what I’m dealing with and I don’t want them to have it.
- sneak 6y ago
  > Apparently there's a config option to turn off telemetry. The option should be to turn it on; automatically "opting users in" (a euphemism; really, it's assuming consent which does not exist) to spyware is at best unethical and in some jurisdictions actually illegal. Co-opting a user's own hardware and connection to (silently!) spy on them is a total dickhead move whether your product is free software or proprietary.

aquir 6y ago

I am using Atlassian's free plans for Jira, Confluence and Service Management. They are great!

johnx123-up 6y ago
FWIW, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25590846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25590846

kogepathic 6y ago

The installation instructions for the server install don't seem to work. > wget https://releases.mattermost.com/focalboard/0.5.0/focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz https://releases.mattermost.com/focalboard/0.5.0/focalboard-... > tar -xvzf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz The file is actually a zip with the tar.gz inside: focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract $ unzip -l focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz Archive: focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz Length Date Time Name --------- ---------- ----- ---- 12461347 02-02-2021 00:38 focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz -------- ------- 12461347 1 files Running tar directly (as written in the instructions) will fail with: $ tar -tzvf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz tar: invalid magic tar: short read It seems like there's something unintentionally producing a zip at the end of the build process.

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here, Hi @kogepathic, sorry about that, adding your report as a ticket here: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/94 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues/94
Aeolun 6y ago
It’s impressive they knew of this (original bug is 20hr old) but still decided to go ahead and post on HN.
cyberlurker 6y ago
Thank you, I was trying to figure this out.

mosselman 6y ago

Deleting a board is possible, but there is no confirm and no way to restore. Very dangerous!

bachmeier 6y ago
Only for people that make mistakes.

johnx123-up 6y ago

FWIW, more alternatives are listed here https://alternativeshub.gitlab.io/kanban-board/ https://alternativeshub.gitlab.io/kanban-board/ with comparison ranking. IIRC, they're sourced from the awesome list

diacritica 6y ago
A pity that website looks very outdated.

riho 6y ago

Welp.

it33 6y ago
Focalboard team here. Hi @riho, thanks for your feedback. One key piece of feedback we've heard is that other SaaS-based project management tools can run slow. Because of this, one concept we're testing out is "Focalboard Personal Desktop" where you can run the software locally. You can download the v0.6 version from the Windows Store or Apple AppStore to try it out. We would love your feedback. Also, if you're interested in influencing the project, please consider submitting a ticket with type `enhancement` with what you'd like to see: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/issues
- riho 6y ago
  That's fair enough, "x, but actually fast" is definitely a strong selling point and a differentiator in my book. That wasn't mentioned on the landing page.
  - it33 6y ago
    Focalboard team here, agree with your feedback! Updated README on this: https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/commit/5c802347be8a7906255d55a45c1f66f0ebbe7874#diff-b335630551682c19a781afebcf4d07bf978fb1f8ac04c6bf87428ed5106870f5 https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/commit/5c802347be8a...