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This is a topic I feel cannot be openly discussed on HN (and basically everywhere else), sadly. I switched from Github to Gitlab after this change. Political c

This is a topic I feel cannot be openly discussed on HN (and basically everywhere else), sadly. I switched from Github to Gitlab after this change. Political correctness is a great way to know that a company has the completely wrong focus and will be unable to innovate and create good products.

input_sh 6y ago
But GitLab also implemented this change? Well, they gave admins the option to change the default branch name to whatever they like, and they've announced they're changing from master to main by default in the next two months or so: https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-branch-name/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra... You may as well stop using Git completely then, since Git itself uses main as recommended.
- JimDabell 6y ago
  > Git itself uses main as recommended The default branch name in Git, as of v2.31 (released two days ago), is master.
  - input_sh 6y ago
    As of v2.28, they've made that configurable with `git config --global init.defaultBranch main`. They're working on it, and that's the first step.
    - JimDabell 6y ago
      As far as I am aware, no decision has been made to change the default. They just want it to be configurable and not have people make assumptions. Has this changed?
- ecmascript 6y ago
  The news is just a week old, I didn't know about it. Maybe I'll use something else than git, what are some modern alternatives?
Jiejeing 6y ago
It has been discussed to death on HN, what are you talking about? Now for some notes on your comment: - Gitlab has switched the name of the master branch too - The point is not that it is harmful or bad to do so, and anyone actually crusading against this change as if it was some kind of a slippery slope leading to the downfall of their subculture or even civilization may want to think about their priorities and sense of hyperbole. - This is not at all what the article complains about. The author argues that this is essentially a form of virtue signalling that allows essentially overpaid white engineers to pat themselves in the back without putting in actual work and money for diversity, inclusion, and equality; a symbolic change that is not rooted in materialism.
- ecmascript 6y ago
  > It has been discussed to death on HN, what are you talking about? Not without getting downvoted to oblivion for the only reason which is having an opposing opinion. > Gitlab has switched the name of the master branch too Yes I have been made aware of that now. > The point is not that it is harmful or bad to do so, and anyone actually crusading against this change as if it was some kind of a slippery slope leading to the downfall of their subculture or even civilization may want to think about their priorities and sense of hyperbole. I don't even understand this sentence. > - This is not at all what the article complains about. The author argues that this is essentially a form of virtue signalling that allows essentially overpaid white engineers to pat themselves in the back without putting in actual work and money for diversity, inclusion, and equality; a symbolic change that is not rooted in materialism. So.. it's exactly what the article complains about?
  - krainboltgreene 6y ago
    > Not without getting downvoted to oblivion for the only reason which is having an opposing opinion. You have no idea why people downvote things. I find these discussions trite and boring.
wott 6y ago
> I switched from Github to Gitlab after this change Ah ah. You didn't believe you could run away, did you? https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-branch-name/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra...
- ecmascript 6y ago
  Sigh, I wonder when smart people did become so unbelievable stupid?
  - krainboltgreene 6y ago
    Most likely they didn't and you're just weird.
exdsq 6y ago
Sounds like git itself will be changing too -- may as well plan for it and set your new repos to main instead.
dsincl12 6y ago
GitLab made the change[1] as well unfortunately. I completely agree with everything written in the post as well. The problem with attacking words for cheap points is that it doesn't make a difference to the actual problem and is mainly used to show "aware" and "great" people are. 1. https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-branch-name/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra...

input_sh 6y ago

But GitLab also implemented this change? Well, they gave admins the option to change the default branch name to whatever they like, and they've announced they're changing from master to main by default in the next two months or so: https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-branch-name/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra... You may as well stop using Git completely then, since Git itself uses main as recommended.

JimDabell 6y ago
> Git itself uses main as recommended The default branch name in Git, as of v2.31 (released two days ago), is master.
- input_sh 6y ago
  As of v2.28, they've made that configurable with `git config --global init.defaultBranch main`. They're working on it, and that's the first step.
  - JimDabell 6y ago
    As far as I am aware, no decision has been made to change the default. They just want it to be configurable and not have people make assumptions. Has this changed?
ecmascript 6y ago
The news is just a week old, I didn't know about it. Maybe I'll use something else than git, what are some modern alternatives?

Jiejeing 6y ago

It has been discussed to death on HN, what are you talking about? Now for some notes on your comment: - Gitlab has switched the name of the master branch too - The point is not that it is harmful or bad to do so, and anyone actually crusading against this change as if it was some kind of a slippery slope leading to the downfall of their subculture or even civilization may want to think about their priorities and sense of hyperbole. - This is not at all what the article complains about. The author argues that this is essentially a form of virtue signalling that allows essentially overpaid white engineers to pat themselves in the back without putting in actual work and money for diversity, inclusion, and equality; a symbolic change that is not rooted in materialism.

ecmascript 6y ago
> It has been discussed to death on HN, what are you talking about? Not without getting downvoted to oblivion for the only reason which is having an opposing opinion. > Gitlab has switched the name of the master branch too Yes I have been made aware of that now. > The point is not that it is harmful or bad to do so, and anyone actually crusading against this change as if it was some kind of a slippery slope leading to the downfall of their subculture or even civilization may want to think about their priorities and sense of hyperbole. I don't even understand this sentence. > - This is not at all what the article complains about. The author argues that this is essentially a form of virtue signalling that allows essentially overpaid white engineers to pat themselves in the back without putting in actual work and money for diversity, inclusion, and equality; a symbolic change that is not rooted in materialism. So.. it's exactly what the article complains about?
- krainboltgreene 6y ago
  > Not without getting downvoted to oblivion for the only reason which is having an opposing opinion. You have no idea why people downvote things. I find these discussions trite and boring.

wott 6y ago

> I switched from Github to Gitlab after this change Ah ah. You didn't believe you could run away, did you? https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-branch-name/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra...

ecmascript 6y ago
Sigh, I wonder when smart people did become so unbelievable stupid?
- krainboltgreene 6y ago
  Most likely they didn't and you're just weird.

exdsq 6y ago

Sounds like git itself will be changing too -- may as well plan for it and set your new repos to main instead.

dsincl12 6y ago

GitLab made the change[1] as well unfortunately. I completely agree with everything written in the post as well. The problem with attacking words for cheap points is that it doesn't make a difference to the actual problem and is mainly used to show "aware" and "great" people are. 1. https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-branch-name/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra...