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Sounds like it was an iPad with a SIM snd somehow the carrier SIM has gone bad. Pop a new SIM in and reactivate?

chipotle_coyote 6y ago
Yes, that's got to be a carrier thing. iPads do not "require activation," and many iPads are wifi-only. I'm not saying this isn't a problem, but I am extremely skeptical it is a problem caused by Big Bad Evil Apple doing Big Bad Evil things.
- forgotmypw17 6y ago
  How do you figure this problem is not caused by Apple, when I bought the iPad outright from Apple and only used the carrier for monthly-paid network access?
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  - chipotle_coyote 6y ago
    Because iPads don't require activation, and carrier services do require activation. The "Activation Required" message is specifically related to cellular networking. This could be (and I suspect very likely is) a problem with your iPad's SIM that you could check by powering off the iPad, removing the SIM and turning it back on again. It could be that there's some kind of corruption that you might need to fix by connecting it up to iTunes or even bringing to the dreaded Genius Bar. It could conceivably be some weird bug in iOS that has somehow sprung up and turned your iPad into a flat flowerpot. All of these things suck! But what it is not is Apple forcing you to "authorize" your iPad in order to let it boot up.
    - forgotmypw17 6y ago
      I don't think it makes sense that cellular activation, which has not been active for several years now, would lock down the entire device, refusing me access to my own data, not to mention being able to use the device over local WiFi network. Do you disagree? (I am nowhere near a "Genius Bar".)
- thelopa 6y ago
  I think you are mistaken. Activation is unrelated to cellular service. Activation is an anti-theft feature. E.g. even M1 macs are subject to activation and activation lock. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208987 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208987 Replacing the sim card in a device immediately triggers activation (e.g. to stop someone from using a stolen, passwordless device as their own). So, if the sim went bad, it seems plausible that the device might need to re-activate.
  - chipotle_coyote 6y ago
    Hmm. Okay, that sounds reasonable! I've come across the "Activation Required" screen before, both with people asking similar questions specifically about old cellular iPads, and it specifically says "Activation Required" while it's waiting to talk to an activation server, and that server really does cellular configuration. (I have personal experience with this step being screwed up on a new iPhone once. It was not a super fun time.) A bit of Googling shows the "Activation Lock" screen as a screen that says, well, "Activation Lock"; I think it's really a separate thing. If that's what happened to the OP, then it can be unlocked from the web: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201441 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201441
forgotmypw17 6y ago
Thanks, it is indeed a SIM-capable iPad. I had no idea this kind of thing could happen with it. I appreciate your lead, though I'm not sure where I would get a new SIM? It hasn't been hooked up to the network for several years now, why would it "go bad" now? Also, do you know if I could have prevented this by removing the SIM before it happened?
- zapzupnz 6y ago
  > I’m not sure where I could get a new SIM? Do you have a mobile phone? Pop it out, put it in the iPad, activate it, take it out again. In New Zealand, where I’m from, you can get SIM cards from supermarkets, petrol stations, convenience stores …
  - forgotmypw17 6y ago
    I actually do not, haven't had one for years. :)

Yes, that's got to be a carrier thing. iPads do not "require activation," and many iPads are wifi-only. I'm not saying this isn't a problem, but I am extremely skeptical it is a problem caused by Big Bad Evil Apple doing Big Bad Evil things.

forgotmypw17 6y ago
How do you figure this problem is not caused by Apple, when I bought the iPad outright from Apple and only used the carrier for monthly-paid network access?
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- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  Because iPads don't require activation, and carrier services do require activation. The "Activation Required" message is specifically related to cellular networking. This could be (and I suspect very likely is) a problem with your iPad's SIM that you could check by powering off the iPad, removing the SIM and turning it back on again. It could be that there's some kind of corruption that you might need to fix by connecting it up to iTunes or even bringing to the dreaded Genius Bar. It could conceivably be some weird bug in iOS that has somehow sprung up and turned your iPad into a flat flowerpot. All of these things suck! But what it is not is Apple forcing you to "authorize" your iPad in order to let it boot up.
  - forgotmypw17 6y ago
    I don't think it makes sense that cellular activation, which has not been active for several years now, would lock down the entire device, refusing me access to my own data, not to mention being able to use the device over local WiFi network. Do you disagree? (I am nowhere near a "Genius Bar".)
thelopa 6y ago
I think you are mistaken. Activation is unrelated to cellular service. Activation is an anti-theft feature. E.g. even M1 macs are subject to activation and activation lock. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208987 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208987 Replacing the sim card in a device immediately triggers activation (e.g. to stop someone from using a stolen, passwordless device as their own). So, if the sim went bad, it seems plausible that the device might need to re-activate.
- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  Hmm. Okay, that sounds reasonable! I've come across the "Activation Required" screen before, both with people asking similar questions specifically about old cellular iPads, and it specifically says "Activation Required" while it's waiting to talk to an activation server, and that server really does cellular configuration. (I have personal experience with this step being screwed up on a new iPhone once. It was not a super fun time.) A bit of Googling shows the "Activation Lock" screen as a screen that says, well, "Activation Lock"; I think it's really a separate thing. If that's what happened to the OP, then it can be unlocked from the web: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201441 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201441

forgotmypw17 6y ago

Thanks, it is indeed a SIM-capable iPad. I had no idea this kind of thing could happen with it. I appreciate your lead, though I'm not sure where I would get a new SIM? It hasn't been hooked up to the network for several years now, why would it "go bad" now? Also, do you know if I could have prevented this by removing the SIM before it happened?

zapzupnz 6y ago
> I’m not sure where I could get a new SIM? Do you have a mobile phone? Pop it out, put it in the iPad, activate it, take it out again. In New Zealand, where I’m from, you can get SIM cards from supermarkets, petrol stations, convenience stores …
- forgotmypw17 6y ago
  I actually do not, haven't had one for years. :)