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This article is tired excuses dressed up as freedom. They want to travel the road but not pay the toll.

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m-p-3 6y ago
On top of letting the toll take 30% on the merchandise on each deliveries on the ONLY road available on their platform. They already pay their Apple Developer Program yearly membership fees. If Apples deem this isn't enough, then they should raise the cost to properly take that into account.
- zapzupnz 6y ago
  That would preclude smaller developers, people who pay the subscription but don’t submit apps but rather use other benefits of the program, and people who only or mostly make free apps.
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  This is terrible business advice. Look how wildly successful their model is. It’s the example of how other app stores run their businesses.
  - heavyset_go 6y ago
    Standard Oil and Microsoft in the 90's/00's were both wildly successful, too, yet they still engaged in anti-competitive behavior to the detriment of the market and consumers alike.
    - imwillofficial 6y ago
      Are they equitable? I think not. The paradigm is iPhone as an "App Console" I don't see anyone here decrying Nintendo or Playstation for their walled gardens are steep developer fees.
adamcstephens 6y ago
To use your analogy, there is only one road and it is a toll road. Maybe they are ok with a side road, but there is none. The only thing tired is extractive monopolies. Funnily enough, Apple could make a few small tweaks and not be in this category. They've chosen instead to double down on exerting their market power.
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  And? That’s how I want it. If you want viruses distributed by your App Store, go for it, Android is waiting for you. I want a tightly regulated relatively well run platform, not an open one. My phone is mission critical. There isn’t an open platform that can handle that responsibility, like say, Linux in the Cloud.
  - robmusial 6y ago
    Isn’t the sensible option then to allow third party app stores? If you want a tightly regulated environment only stick to the official channels. Apple can continue to charge their premium for that.
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  - adamcstephens 6y ago
    How would a secondary App Store affect you one bit? Don’t install it, problem solved. On the other side, developers and users who do want it are harmed by the current policy. Or do you not have self control? Like an alcoholic who is compelled to drive to the store and buy some alcohol?

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On top of letting the toll take 30% on the merchandise on each deliveries on the ONLY road available on their platform. They already pay their Apple Developer Program yearly membership fees. If Apples deem this isn't enough, then they should raise the cost to properly take that into account.

zapzupnz 6y ago
That would preclude smaller developers, people who pay the subscription but don’t submit apps but rather use other benefits of the program, and people who only or mostly make free apps.
imwillofficial 6y ago
This is terrible business advice. Look how wildly successful their model is. It’s the example of how other app stores run their businesses.
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  Standard Oil and Microsoft in the 90's/00's were both wildly successful, too, yet they still engaged in anti-competitive behavior to the detriment of the market and consumers alike.
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    Are they equitable? I think not. The paradigm is iPhone as an "App Console" I don't see anyone here decrying Nintendo or Playstation for their walled gardens are steep developer fees.

adamcstephens 6y ago

To use your analogy, there is only one road and it is a toll road. Maybe they are ok with a side road, but there is none. The only thing tired is extractive monopolies. Funnily enough, Apple could make a few small tweaks and not be in this category. They've chosen instead to double down on exerting their market power.

imwillofficial 6y ago
And? That’s how I want it. If you want viruses distributed by your App Store, go for it, Android is waiting for you. I want a tightly regulated relatively well run platform, not an open one. My phone is mission critical. There isn’t an open platform that can handle that responsibility, like say, Linux in the Cloud.
- robmusial 6y ago
  Isn’t the sensible option then to allow third party app stores? If you want a tightly regulated environment only stick to the official channels. Apple can continue to charge their premium for that.
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- adamcstephens 6y ago
  How would a secondary App Store affect you one bit? Don’t install it, problem solved. On the other side, developers and users who do want it are harmed by the current policy. Or do you not have self control? Like an alcoholic who is compelled to drive to the store and buy some alcohol?