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Those cars shouldn't exist at all though, massive waste of resources, renting cars should be much much simpler and cheaper
by mavhc 6y ago
Those cars shouldn't exist at all though, massive waste of resources, renting cars should be much much simpler and cheaper
- darawk 6y agoLots of people have a 10 mile or less round trip commute. At that distance, you can drive to and from work every day using this car. I don't think most people would want to rent a vehicle for this.
- bayindirh 6y ago... and if I'm going to rent it for 24 hours, why not buy it in the first place?
- lpcam33 6y agoThe environmental cost of making the car takes a reasonable amount of the resources used in is lifecycle. So in the case you only need the car for a few miles a week you should consider alternatives. Maybe village councils should have a car to be shared by all.
- iso1631 6y agoWhat about peak load You've got 150 people in a village Half drive, so that's 75 You've got 10% of people who want a car for this sort of distance (3000km), so that's 8. Of those chances are at least some of the time almost all of them will want to use it over the same period. Maybe you can get away with 6 or 7 cars instead of 8, with some risk, but that's not saving much, and you're adding a lot of inconvenience (car won't be in the right place), overhead, and risk (what if you need a car now and there's none available?) If you want to tackle the externalities of the resources producing the car, tax them at the same rate as taxing other resources. Of course that's a big village, what about a group of half a dozen isolated houses 2 miles from the village?
- Dylan16807 6y agoSure, if peak load is 90% of users wanting to go on long distance trips simultaneously then it doesn't work out. Why would peak load be that high, though?
- rswskg 6y agoMaybe you should build a ride sharing app......oh.
- achow 6y agoSmall villages would not have any rentals. Small villages also keep vehicles for emergency - ex. for emergency visits to hospitals at nearest town or city.
- jillesvangurp 6y agoThere is no car rental in my parents village and the bus only comes a few times a day. Car sharing works great in bigger cities but is not even an option outside those. I use one in Berlin and have never owned a car actually. Perfect for people like my mother would be a self driving car that you can summon to your door in a few minutes. But even calling a taxi takes half an hour+. So it would have to be faster than that.
- lloeki 6y agoFor some (not that rare) areas, make that: - bus: a few times a week (if at all), because of cost efficiency - taxi: hours, + only if you book at least a day in advance, because they’re just not sitting there waiting for a call, they’re busy towards where people are/go, which is, like, the other way. Throw in no/unstable/limited power grid, and you double down on one of the use cases.
- iso1631 6y agoThe village 3 miles away has a bus service 5 times a day. My sister lives in a different village. She gets a bus service on Tuesday morning.
- throwaw2934238 6y agoI live in a big city and use car sharing, and I don't think it works great at all. The fundamental problem with it, and the thing that is always overlooked in the calculations of how much time private cars are unused, is that everyone wants the cars at the same time. Mornings + afternoons (commute times) and weekends. Also highly depending on the weather, which means even planning a day ahead is very hard. If it's sunday afternoon and the weather is nice, good luck finding a free car in the car sharing.
- blendergeek 6y agoRenting cars requires a good credit score, a good driving record, and somebody willing to rent you a car. Further, if a trip starts at a residence there probably won't be a rental car available. And if all the rental cars are in use, there arent any. Car ownership allows a greater level of autonomy without continuous reliance on one more entity that can blacklist whomever they want at any time.
- swilliamsio 6y agoSurely public transportation options are infinitely more preferable than people repeatedly renting cars?
- mavhc 6y agoOnce you have JIT public transport then there's no difference really
- bayindirh 6y agoInstead, cities should have much better and practical public transport, so I wouldn't need my car in the first place, but it's not possible to plan your day around with flexibility in my city, unless I have my car with me. Otherwise, 15 min trips become 60+ ones which makes everything impossible.
- throwaw2934238 6y agoPublic transport still doesn't cover all the use cases of a car, such as hauling things and going out into nature. Which is something everyone needs to do.
- bayindirh 6y ago> Public transport still doesn't cover all the use cases of a car. Of course. OTOH, Instead of using my car, congesting traffic and spewing smoke from my back twice everyday, I'd only use my car whenever I need it for these heavy tasks. Then, use public transport most of the time which possibly runs on electric and do a little more walking every day.
- majewsky 6y agoCorrect. Therefore, the winning combination for city dwellers is public transit + carsharing. Public transit operators are catching on to this: In my city, there is a tie-in offer where a subscription to public transit gives you a rebate with a partnered carsharing provider.
- throwaw2934238 6y agoLike I already wrote in another comment, I think car sharing absolutely does not work at all, because everyone wants the cars at the same time. It's really difficult to find a car when you want it, for example on a sunday afternoon when the weather is nice. And it's totally unreliable, sorry bad luck no swimming for you today, a whole beautiful day wasted in your apartment. It's almost impossible hard to find a scooter share to go to work during commute times. It's only reliable on odd times where noone wants it. Owning a car still gives you a lot of freedom and flexibility to do what you want, when you want it. Which is not covered by car sharing at all. I would gladly own a cheaper car only to do a weekly shopping trip and a weekly nature trip, something like 25km per week. Seems ridiculous to own a car for that short distances, but it gives a LOT of quality of life and I would gladly pay for it instead of using car sharing.
- iso1631 6y agoRent a car that's delivered to a house reliably available at 8am each morning and 3pm every afternoon, with car seats, when everyone else is after a car at at least one of those times, half a mile from the nearest neighbour, 2 miles from the village, and 7 miles from the nearest town?
- jiofih 6y agoSounds like an urban planning problem. I can find half a dozen car sharing vehicles in a 400m radius from my house.
- iso1631 6y agoI can find half a dozen sheep within 400m radius from my house. Not everyone lives in a dense city.
- jiofih 6y agoWell, I can also find a dozen sheep within that radius, just the other way around! Dense country for sure, but I’m not living near the city center. Urban planning does not equal trying to get everyone to live in packed apartments.
- throwaw2934238 6y agoTry again on a sunday afternoon on one of the first beautiful spring days, see how many cars you can find then. Zero around here