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Can you explain how?
by zepto 6y ago
Can you explain how?
- ralusek 6y agoPeople legally buy guns and then distribute them illegally.
- zepto 6y agoSure but the GP’s point they there is little overlap is correct. Out of approx 400,000,000 guns, only very roughly 12,000 are used in crime. There is less than 0.01% overlap.
- jdkee 6y agoNot sure where you got this number from. The US had 13,500 firearm homicides in 2018. https://health.ucdavis.edu/what-you-can-do/facts.html https://health.ucdavis.edu/what-you-can-do/facts.html If you include the number of persons shot but not killed directly you are looking at about 20x that number. And that doesn’t include firearms used in other crimes of violence.
- zepto 6y agoIf your numbers are correct, the overall point still stands.
- axaxs 6y agoI've had guns stolen. So overnight they went from legally owned to illegally owned.
- jiofih 6y agoEvery illegal gun is either stolen from a legal owner, the police, the military, or imported (where it comes from those same sources). By increasing the supply their availability for criminals also goes up proportionally.
- laverya 6y ago3rd option - manufactured by the criminal. This isn't common today, but considering ongoing the efforts to make 3d-printing Glock and Hi-Point frames easier I can't imagine it will remain uncommon forever. These aren't exactly hard to find, see [0]. And for those who think you can just ban all other gun parts and fix the problem, I present to you the FGC-9 - a pistol-caliber carbine manufacturable in your basement with a 3d printer, metal bar stock, and some high-pressure pipe. Semi-auto, rifled barrel - the works. [1] Is it a trivial process? No. Is it going to get easier and produce higher quality results with time? Yes. 0: https://www.defcad.com/library/60d6a735-4a8c-4b42-8dd7-33b136361975/ https://www.defcad.com/library/60d6a735-4a8c-4b42-8dd7-33b13... 1: https://www.defcad.com/library/ac26b242-720f-4608-a202-0ecea6efa8c7/ https://www.defcad.com/library/ac26b242-720f-4608-a202-0ecea...
- omginternets 6y agoThe proportion of such weapons on the street is on the order of a rounding error.
- laverya 6y agoYeah, 3d-printed guns are essentially nonexistent in criminal hands today. (to the best of my knowledge)
- zepto 6y agoSure, but the evidence from other countries strongly suggests that this would change if commercially made guns got harder to obtain. In the UK and Europe, criminals modifying replicas or other close starting points is quite common.
- jiofih 6y agoSource for that Europe claim? That’s what we call a stretch. A earth-to-moon kind of stretch. In most of Western Europe gun crime is basically non-existent outside of turf wars, drug rings and bank robberies. Your odds of being killed or robbed at gunpoint are close to zero. You know where modifying guns with 3D printed parts is common? The USA, since you can turn many of the commercially available ones into automatic weapons.