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I thought they failed cause unbelievably powerful databases are available totally free. What more reason is needed?

by wideareanetwork 6y ago

runawaybottle 6y ago
Mongodb has a 15b market cap, and mongo is widely derided.
- Aeolun 6y ago
  But it’s the only real player in their market. RethinkDB with MongoDB ‘performance’ would have blown them out of the water.
  - goatinaboat 6y ago
    But it’s the only real player in their market Not at all. All of MongoDB is just a feature in Postgres, and Postgres does it better, and Postgres does hundreds more things too.
    - thesimon 6y ago
      >and Postgres does hundreds more things too. being hip, which is one of the most important factors for choosing a database database technology, is not one of them though.
    - Aeolun 6y ago
      MongoDB is not in the same market as postgres. I don’t disagree with you, but the people that choose Mongo do not see postgres as a valid alternative.
    - gqewogpdqa 6y ago
      I like both databases. Saying that MongoDB is a subset of PostgreSQL is not right, IMO. They are both powerful databases. For legacy off-Oracle or off-SQL Server migration, PostgreSQL sure is an easier place to start (though you still likely have to re-write/re-tune your application). For new apps, you could start with either. The idea that PostgreSQL is a superset of MongoDB is incorrect. As some examples, PostgreSQL doesn't shard, have multi-region, multi-cloud, enforce JSON schema, data governance, full JSON support, etc. That said, PostgreSQL does do a lot of things MongoDB doesn't do. The two products have a big feature overlap - both are great databases. I think you could build a modern app on either one. If you want to build in modern languages faster and have a more available system out of the box, I'd suggest MongoDB. If you have legacy skillsets, legacy apps, or just love relational, I'd suggest PostgreSQL.
- senderista 6y ago
  They finally got their engineering act together (via the Sleepycat acquisition), long after they'd made it big.
  - mrweasel 6y ago
    Didn’t Oracle buy Sleepycat?
    - bboreham 6y ago
      Mongo bought WiredTiger. Both founded by Keith Bostic, from Berkeley DB heritage.
    - senderista 6y ago
      Yes, my bad, I was referring to WiredTiger (still the same folks).

I thought they failed cause unbelievably powerful databases are available totally free. What more reason is needed?

runawaybottle 6y ago

Mongodb has a 15b market cap, and mongo is widely derided.

Aeolun 6y ago
But it’s the only real player in their market. RethinkDB with MongoDB ‘performance’ would have blown them out of the water.
- goatinaboat 6y ago
  But it’s the only real player in their market Not at all. All of MongoDB is just a feature in Postgres, and Postgres does it better, and Postgres does hundreds more things too.
  - thesimon 6y ago
    >and Postgres does hundreds more things too. being hip, which is one of the most important factors for choosing a database database technology, is not one of them though.
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    MongoDB is not in the same market as postgres. I don’t disagree with you, but the people that choose Mongo do not see postgres as a valid alternative.
  - gqewogpdqa 6y ago
    I like both databases. Saying that MongoDB is a subset of PostgreSQL is not right, IMO. They are both powerful databases. For legacy off-Oracle or off-SQL Server migration, PostgreSQL sure is an easier place to start (though you still likely have to re-write/re-tune your application). For new apps, you could start with either. The idea that PostgreSQL is a superset of MongoDB is incorrect. As some examples, PostgreSQL doesn't shard, have multi-region, multi-cloud, enforce JSON schema, data governance, full JSON support, etc. That said, PostgreSQL does do a lot of things MongoDB doesn't do. The two products have a big feature overlap - both are great databases. I think you could build a modern app on either one. If you want to build in modern languages faster and have a more available system out of the box, I'd suggest MongoDB. If you have legacy skillsets, legacy apps, or just love relational, I'd suggest PostgreSQL.
senderista 6y ago
They finally got their engineering act together (via the Sleepycat acquisition), long after they'd made it big.
- mrweasel 6y ago
  Didn’t Oracle buy Sleepycat?
  - bboreham 6y ago
    Mongo bought WiredTiger. Both founded by Keith Bostic, from Berkeley DB heritage.
  - senderista 6y ago
    Yes, my bad, I was referring to WiredTiger (still the same folks).