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> The undocumented immigrant labour problem isn't as big a problem as the family farms' systemic problem of child labour and child exploitation. Which the autho
by gizmondo 6y ago
> The undocumented immigrant labour problem isn't as big a problem as the family farms' systemic problem of child labour and child exploitation. Which the author glosses over in his point of view.
He doesn't gloss over it, he glorifies it as "family bonding" or something. It's disgusting.
- ilikerashers 6y agoHow? Helping on a family farm has been done for generations. A corporate exploiting Illegal immigration is a preferred solution? Interesting values.
- gizmondo 6y agoOwning slaves was also done for generations, so not sure what your point is. Both are bad, but according to my values exploiting children is somewhat worse than exploiting adults, yes.
- ilikerashers 6y agoDo you classify helping with chores around the house as child exploitation too? As on a farm, kids have chores. They're not working night and day.
- gizmondo 6y agoThey often work _way_ more than other children. If your kid is doing "chores around the house" for hours every day, it's exploitation too.
- joerandom 6y agoDo you have ANY idea how chores on a farm look like? Hint: it's nothing like vacuming or taking dishes out from a dishwasher. It's lots of hard work. Dealing with excrements and dangerous animals (even a cow or pig is dangerous in confined spaces).
- ilikerashers 6y agoYeah, I grew up on a farm. Happy memories of feeding calves, bringing in hay bales on summer days, feeding pigs. Also had to bring them in for winter and mending fences. It's actually far more pleasant than vacuuming floors and washing up.
- nradov 6y agoOh please. I took care of a few pigs and cattle as a child, including cleaning up manure. It wasn't that hard and certainly not dangerous.
- deadmetheny 6y agoDo YOU? Because I did farm chores growing up and the stuff you're tasked with doing is never particularly dangerous. Dirt and grime washed off just fine and it was good exercise and time outdoors.
- corty 6y agoChores around a house are an educational tool and may be considered beneficial. On a farm, you get lots of additional "chores" on top. Where the "chores" are hard labour, often dangerous, at times early in the morning before school and in an amount where you do replace paid workers. A household does work without a child doing chores. A family farm won't be profitable without the free labour from the children. There is a reason farming families do have a larger number of children compared to the average. And while, yes, it has been this way for millenia, times change. If it weren't on a farm, with the same amount of "chores", child protection would get involved in an instant.
- fogihujy 6y agoJust an anecdotal observation from a part-time farmer: I couldn't keep my daughter away from farmwork even if I wanted to; it's not all about exploitation.
- saalweachter 6y agoAs both a child and a parent my experience has been, (young) children want to do whatever their parents are doing.
- toyg 6y agoLet's not be overdramatic. Working on farms as a kid is how the overwhelming majority of humanity lived for literally thousands of years. Not every kid working with his family is exploited or abused; I can think of quite a few of my teenaged peers from "difficult" backgrounds who got on the straight and narrow only when they were finally allowed to work.