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>It's a consumer camera ($6000) very few consumers spend $6k on a camera, and if I spent $6k on a camera I wouldn't want it to be consumer.

sudosysgen 6y ago
To be fair, in photography nowadays, the line between professional and consumer is veeeryy thin. I'm a hobbyist and spent 600$ on my camera, just a few years ago it was used by quite a few professionals.
- LegitShady 6y ago
  I spent some money on my 50d a long time ago, and its still a great camera. Then I spent thousands on EF lenses instead and those lenses will move to a 5d2 or whatever used body I find to replace the 50d.
  - namibj 6y ago
    Just curious: these are (mostly, weighted by cost) zoom lenses, right? Or did you invest a lot into very fast prime lenses?
    - LegitShady 6y ago
      I think fast primes are amazing but not convenient. My lens collection currently looks like this: Canon 50mm f/1.8 (because its fun and cheap) Canon 17-40mm f4/L Sigma 17-55mm f/2.8 Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L Canon 100mm f/2.8L Macro You can cover quite a bit of range with the 17-55 and 70-200 in just two lenses. I also have the original Canon EOS M with the 20mm pancake lense (which is super old at this point) with an adapter to stick EF lenses on it. When I upgrade to an actual full frame body (my 50d is an APS-C size sensor) I'll probably want to see how zoomed 200mm feels but until then I'm pretty happy. I still do a fair amount of hobby photography but it's one of a dozen hobbies so they probably don't get as much attention as they should.
- AuryGlenz 6y ago
  If you go to photography forums it’s not the professionals buying the most expensive equipment, it’s “Uncle Bob.” Not that professionals don’t have need of the high end stuff, depending on what they do. If you’re a sports or wildlife photographer you might need that $15,000 lens. If you’re a studio photographer with high end clients you might want that aforementioned megapixel beast. Try to look up information on either and you’ll be guaranteed to see some truly bad photos by people that care primarily about gear and have the money to spend on it. The Nikon D750 is still a well regarded wedding photography camera, and it came out on 2014. That’s a long time, technology-wise. I upgraded one of mine last year to a D850 and another this year to a Z6ii, and I don’t feel as if I’ve gained all that much. They did what I needed them to do.
  - LegitShady 6y ago
    I think photography forums have serious sampling problems that don't accurately reflect sales of camera equipment, and I wouldn't take informal or formal surveys of photography forums as evidence that only rich 'uncle bob' buys expensive camera equipment. My experience is that many professional shooters have much larger lens and accessory collections, have much more modern cameras and generally tend to have 2-3 of them for the purpose of having a second lens ready to shoot and a spare body on hand. For every uncle bob there are a lot of small time pros with 3x cameras as good as bob's not posting about them on forums. I think that in general many 'professionals' aren't shooting with crazy cameras because they don't need them. a Used 5d2 is an amazing camera and its super cheap. It produces professional pictures, provided you can take them. But the build quality and feature set make it a pro camera, not its price.
    - AuryGlenz 6y ago
      I completely agree with you in the regular pro/prosumer end of things. I have 3 D750s, a D610, a D850, and a Z6ii. I have a complete set of 1.4 prime lenses, and some high quality zooms on the long end. I’m “just” a portrait and wedding photographer. In the ultra high end things get a bit wonky though. Most pro photographers don’t want to deal with the downsides to something like Nikon’s 58mm f/.95 lens, or a medium format digital camera. They’re niche, and have niche use cases.

sudosysgen 6y ago

To be fair, in photography nowadays, the line between professional and consumer is veeeryy thin. I'm a hobbyist and spent 600$ on my camera, just a few years ago it was used by quite a few professionals.

LegitShady 6y ago
I spent some money on my 50d a long time ago, and its still a great camera. Then I spent thousands on EF lenses instead and those lenses will move to a 5d2 or whatever used body I find to replace the 50d.
- namibj 6y ago
  Just curious: these are (mostly, weighted by cost) zoom lenses, right? Or did you invest a lot into very fast prime lenses?
  - LegitShady 6y ago
    I think fast primes are amazing but not convenient. My lens collection currently looks like this: Canon 50mm f/1.8 (because its fun and cheap) Canon 17-40mm f4/L Sigma 17-55mm f/2.8 Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L Canon 100mm f/2.8L Macro You can cover quite a bit of range with the 17-55 and 70-200 in just two lenses. I also have the original Canon EOS M with the 20mm pancake lense (which is super old at this point) with an adapter to stick EF lenses on it. When I upgrade to an actual full frame body (my 50d is an APS-C size sensor) I'll probably want to see how zoomed 200mm feels but until then I'm pretty happy. I still do a fair amount of hobby photography but it's one of a dozen hobbies so they probably don't get as much attention as they should.
AuryGlenz 6y ago
If you go to photography forums it’s not the professionals buying the most expensive equipment, it’s “Uncle Bob.” Not that professionals don’t have need of the high end stuff, depending on what they do. If you’re a sports or wildlife photographer you might need that $15,000 lens. If you’re a studio photographer with high end clients you might want that aforementioned megapixel beast. Try to look up information on either and you’ll be guaranteed to see some truly bad photos by people that care primarily about gear and have the money to spend on it. The Nikon D750 is still a well regarded wedding photography camera, and it came out on 2014. That’s a long time, technology-wise. I upgraded one of mine last year to a D850 and another this year to a Z6ii, and I don’t feel as if I’ve gained all that much. They did what I needed them to do.
- LegitShady 6y ago
  I think photography forums have serious sampling problems that don't accurately reflect sales of camera equipment, and I wouldn't take informal or formal surveys of photography forums as evidence that only rich 'uncle bob' buys expensive camera equipment. My experience is that many professional shooters have much larger lens and accessory collections, have much more modern cameras and generally tend to have 2-3 of them for the purpose of having a second lens ready to shoot and a spare body on hand. For every uncle bob there are a lot of small time pros with 3x cameras as good as bob's not posting about them on forums. I think that in general many 'professionals' aren't shooting with crazy cameras because they don't need them. a Used 5d2 is an amazing camera and its super cheap. It produces professional pictures, provided you can take them. But the build quality and feature set make it a pro camera, not its price.
  - AuryGlenz 6y ago
    I completely agree with you in the regular pro/prosumer end of things. I have 3 D750s, a D610, a D850, and a Z6ii. I have a complete set of 1.4 prime lenses, and some high quality zooms on the long end. I’m “just” a portrait and wedding photographer. In the ultra high end things get a bit wonky though. Most pro photographers don’t want to deal with the downsides to something like Nikon’s 58mm f/.95 lens, or a medium format digital camera. They’re niche, and have niche use cases.