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My bank sent me 64 copies of the same debit card
- tyingq 6y ago[x] Merged Pull Request 224: Implement retry logic
- function_seven 6y ago"Added RETRY_MAX parameter, set initially to 3F. (I think 3 Failures is enough to give up.)"
- bestest 6y ago3F? 0x3F === 63. I think THIS explains everything.
- hyperbovine 6y ago0ba5c63: fixes off by one error in PR 224
- dmichulke 6y agoBetter revert because 63 retries = 64 tries
- DSingularity 6y agoI once used a new hire process where the insurance card was mailed when the user clicked next on the insurance page. Problem is when someone clicked back and changed something another card was mailed. We received a bunch of ID cards.
- savant_penguin 6y agoI can imagine someone mistakenly adding a 0 and then sending 2*60 cards instead of 2*6 > Bank proceeds to buy drilling companies to fulfill the necessary plastic demand so customer 8789 with $2.86 in his account can have all the cards he needs
- compressedgas 6y ago2⁶⁰ would be far too many.
- Thaxll 6y agoProbably some Perl script running in a crontab that no one touch in the last 10 years.
- tyingq 6y agoTheir main site (https://www.pmcu.org/ https://www.pmcu.org/) is running Wordpress.
- danaliv 6y ago64 debit cards ought to be enough for anybody.
- fuzzfactor 6y agoJust in case you lose the first 63 of them . . .
- mattl 6y agoA bank in Boston once sent me a debit card that didn't meet the valid number algorithm. I had to go in there and show them the math step by step to prove it.
- tyingq 6y agoThat's interesting. You would assume the LUHN digit would be calculated and non-editable. Was it a card with an unusual number of digits or something?
- mattl 6y agoRegular Visa Debit card.
- carlio 6y agoObviously not that regular or it'd have worked :)
- RandallBrown 6y agoI have a fun story about a card with an unusual number of digits! I worked for a very large department store on their mobile app. They issued their own in-store credit cards that only had 9 digits and didn't pass the LUHN check. They jumped into e-commerce a loooong time ago so the tech stack was showing it's age and they didn't have real test servers. (They did but they were almost always unusably slow.) We did almost all of our testing against the production servers. This was fine because we were mostly just loading product pages and building shopping carts. Normally for testing checkouts we'd use bogus credit cards like 4111 1111 1111 1111, which passes the LUHN check but is obviously a non-working card so our order would fail. We had to check the in-store card processing a little differently and would test with the number 123456789, thinking that surely couldn't be a real card number. (You may see where this is going.) We ended up typing out a lot of addresses so we usually picked one with the first state in our state picker, Alaska. Then we found the shortest city name in Alaska, which is Tok (there's a couple other three letter towns in AK but that's what we usually chose.) One day, someone decided to check the order history of the account we were using to place those test orders. They noticed a tracking number and clicked on it. We had sent several dresses to 1 A St. in Tok Alaska. It was the longest tracking list I've ever seen with several delays and problems that could only occur when shipping to a fairly remote town in Alaska. (I believe avalanche was one of the listed reasons.) Sorry to whoever had that card!
- BugsJustFindMe 6y agoPlastic card distribution can be extremely frustrating, because the only time you need it to happen is when you don't actually want it to be needed (fruad, loss, damage, new account, whatever). You just want to fucking buy things, not deal with shipping incompetence, you know? This reminds me of a time I was traveling and had to cancel a lost credit card. I told the card company that I was not at home,was definitely outside of the country, not going to be home, definitely staying at an address that was not the home address listed on the account, wanted the card to be sent to _me_ and not my _home_, gave them my foreign delivery address 5 times over as many weeks, got 5 separate promises that the card was definitely going to reach me at my outside-of-the-country-and-not-at-home location in just a few business days, and the card never showed up. So I just gave up. And then, when I finally went home there were 5 goddamn cards in my mail slot. Honestly this reason alone makes Apple's purely digital credit card my favorite. Need a new card number? Just push a button. No incompetent shipping divisions with 5 hops and as many business days between you and your ability to buy things when your card number is breached.
- wackro 6y agoI am not an Apple user but presumably Apple is processing your payments in this case, and have an insight into your spending?
- DrJokepu 6y agoIt’s actually Goldman Sachs. Apple does not retain transaction history, per their privacy policy.
- Shank 6y ago> Apple Card features that use your transaction history, like spending summaries, are created on-device. Apple does not know your transaction history. [0] > When you use Apple Card, our issuing bank and payment network partner — Goldman Sachs and Mastercard — and their service providers receive information about your transaction, including the merchant, time, and amount in order to operate Apple Card. Neither Goldman Sachs nor Mastercard share or sell your transaction information with third parties for advertising or marketing. [0] [0]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210662 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210662
- mattl 6y agoWhen I was at the FSF, Google mailed a coupon for free adwords to a bunch of websites, including several thousand coupons to the FSF... we figured it out it was all Joomla websites with a copy of the GPL linked in the footer.
- segfaultbuserr 6y agoThis is both hilarious and horrible. I think the FSF address (both old and new) is one of the most well-known address on the Internet. I have to wonder: how many junkmail do you receive from web scrapers?
- mattl 6y agoNot a lot of junk mail when I was there, but the middle old address (59 Temple Place) no longer exists, so I had some help from Greg KH to remove it from Linux. When I was there I would get a fair amount of mail from people in prisons, and we'd send them books.
- segfaultbuserr 6y agoInteresting. Did the prisoners specifically ask for free software related books, or did they simply use FSF as a helpful place for getting all kind of books?
- mattl 6y agoThey’d ask for programming books. We always had slightly outdated Emacs manuals around plus stuff like Flex and a book on mastering the command line.
- skissane 6y agoDid the FSF use those coupons to advertise its philosophy?
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- valuearb 6y agoThis is why you don’t keep hitting the submit button...
- Nailgun 6y agoShouldn't that be taken care of? I just mean I made terrible Flash Games once and learned that on the first week of the job. I actually still see this on payment gateways with banks. "IF SOMETHING DOESNT HAPPEN IN 60 SECS DON'T TRY AGAIN UNTIL YOU CHECK PAYMENT WAS NOT TAKEN".
- scrollaway 6y agoIdempotency keys is how you do this safely.
- black_puppydog 6y agoI mean... this (issuing plastic cards) is just basically a way of distributing "trusted" hardware to customers who are walking around with a million more cycles per second on their wrist...
- hu3 6y agoPerhaps RAM memory corruption? I can imagine bit flips doing that on non ECC memory.
- Nican 6y agoThat was my initial guess as well, but I can not imagine where in the pipeline that would occur. A customer might request more than 1 card, but it does not explain the wildly different expiration dates, and different delivery dates.
- Rebelgecko 6y agoEven though I have "paperless" enabled, Charles Schwab sends me a paper letter for every stock transaction I do in one of my accounts. Especially in conjunction with fractional shares, this leads to a lot of wasted paper and effort. I've been tempted to do a bunch of 0.01 share transactions to see if I could overwhelm them into giving up on paper transaction confirmations.
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- yuliyp 6y agoThere are multiple settings for paperless. On their web site go to the profile icon, paperless to see all of them.
- Rebelgecko 6y agoSupposedly it's a known issue that none of those settings apply to their "Equity Center"
- fy20 6y agoI sent a GDPR request to Barclays a year or so ago. It took them a while (not within the 30 day deadline), but eventually they got back me. One day a heavy overnight shipped package arrived, and inside were A5 print outs of all previous communications they had ever sent me. Around 500 pages in total. It didn't actually have information about what data they store in the databases, so they didn't actually fulfil my request. I figured it's not worth the trees to try and chase it up more....
- atum47 6y agoI used to work at a bank. I joke to my friends that if you ever see their code base, you wouldn't leave your money with them.
- quercusa 6y agoMy wife works at one. The horrible Oracle CRM* may be the least bad system they have. *AFAICT, each keystroke has to be sent to Redwood City to be individually massaged and returned.
- ineedasername 6y agoeach keystroke has to be sent to Redwood City to be individually massaged and returned Is it an older terminal-based system? Lots of those were designed (and still in use, 40+ years later). Usually it's not a big deal, in fact faster than modern interfaces, because they're built for decades-old hardware and low baud rates. Of course if you're still running the original hardware or have really screwed things up then performance goes out the window.
- quercusa 6y agoNo,that would probably preferable; there's a bad GUI too.
- gruez 6y ago>*AFAICT, each keystroke has to be sent to Redwood City to be individually massaged and returned. It's not as bad as you think. That's essentially how SSH works for instance, every keystroke has to be sent to the server before it shows up.
- quercusa 6y agoGood point - I'd forgotten that! But I've never gotten 10+ characters ahead on SSH.
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- colordrops 6y agoThe first comment in that thread is a nod to that it's pretty much common knowledge that bank errors are never in your favor.
- tamaharbor 6y agoI believe that is a reference to a Community Chest card in the game of Monopoly.
- anonu 6y agolooks like they all have different expiration dates.
- tyingq 6y agoName is "Peter" on some, "Peter D" on some, also "Peter ER".
- stordoff 6y agoOP responded to this in the comments: > I used Photoshop's Content Aware feature to remove the numbers and last name. In some cases, it pulls in surrounding items (Like the "Er" from Peter) and I was too lazy to clean it up.
- Nican 6y agoMy personal guess: A queue calls into an external 3rd party service, but the external service is not transactional, so it can receive and store the request, but before it finishes executing, it throws an exception and returns an error code. The queue keeps retrying into the external service. While the external service keeps printing cards.
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- eli 6y agoBCBS sent me my insurance card every day for a month
- mensetmanusman 6y agoYou got 100000 cards sent to you.
- ac42 6y agoTwice as much!
- imperistan 6y agoI live in the Netherlands, a country that primarily uses debit cards. I do have a credit card that I rarely use. Only when I buy something in the USA for example. Some years back I moved to a different city. About a year later I wanted to make a purchase with my credit card. I found out it had expired. I rang the bank and asked for a new one. They promised to send it to me. It never arrived. Rang again, got the same promise, and still no card. When I called them the third time, the employee found out my old address was still in their database. Turns out the credit card department had a different client database then the debit card department (who had my new address). To change my address, I had to log in to their site. They weren't allowed to change it on the phone. As soon I tried to log in, I noticed I forgot my password. When I clicked 'reset password', there was a new surprise: they send the new password by snail mail.... to the old address of course! So I had to go in person to the house I used to live in and explain the situation. I asked them to ring me when the letter with my name on it arrived on their doorstep. Luckily the people who now live in my old house were very nice and gave me the letter!
- easygoto12 6y agoThat must have been so frustrating. We have advance technology but still not very good
- spocklivelong 6y agoDoes Netherlands has mail forwarding? USPS in the states does mail forwarding if you change your address, it is very convenient.
- clankstar 6y agoUp to a year, but it's quite pricey (75-ish euro's for the full year).
- imperistan 6y agoYeah I had that but this was just a bit more than a year later I think
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- stunt 6y agoNow you need 63 friends to use 64 separate ATMs simultaneously to test their infrastructure.
- dane-pgp 6y agoWould the experiment require telling these friends the PIN? I suspect most people don't know 63 other humans who they could trust with their card and PIN, let alone that many humans who could be coordinated into simultaneously carrying out such a test. It's a fascinating idea though.
- tialaramex 6y agoIt depends - so that's already interesting. There are a whole bunch of fun interesting questions with 64 of the "same" chip card. With a magstripe card you can't really learn anything interesting from having more than one which you couldn't have learned with a single card and a willingness to disobey instructions from the issuer. The card is just a piece of plastic and a small amount of easily transcribed data in the magnetic stripe - so you can clone them, of course, because that's a thing crooks do, and the clones are indistinguishable. But a chip card is more complicated, potentially much more complicated, and it will have at least some local storage that isn't transparent. This is part of why it resists cloning, you can buy gear to read and write magstripes (for legitimate purposes) very cheaply, and that's enough to clone a magstripe card, but you can't (shouldn't be able to) read enough data from your chip card to clone it. Let's number the cards #1-64. Suppose you take card #1 and you try to buy a Coke with it from a card vending machine. Does that work? Or does it need to be "activated" by interacting with an ATM first? If it needs to be activated, after that do cards #2-10 work, or do they too need to be activated? OK. Now having checked the first ten cards working. What happens if you go to an ATM and change your PIN on card #3 ? Does the old PIN work on card #4 still? Or does it need the new PIN even though you never told it the new PIN? If you know somewhere that you're certain does offline PIN verification and somewhere you're sure has online (ATMs are always online) try card #5 in the offline place and card #6 in the online place, they might behave differently! In the US you may struggle to find anywhere that does offline PIN because most US outfits seem to treat card present as good enough (which is one reason why the US has very high fraud rates) Also, find somewhere which gives out very detailed receipts with as much information as possible about your card transaction (e.g. cryptograms, and see if cards #1 and #10 are distinguishable based on the information in those receipts. Finally, if you're aware of a transaction limit (e.g. maybe only ten contactless transactions between PIN requests) see if the limit belongs to a specific card or the account. If you know (or discover) multiple limits, there might be some in each category.
- analog31 6y agoIt's really funny, but when I see an error that's a power of 2, I immediately look for a hardware bug.
- oaiey 6y agoExactly. The 64 is no coincidence.
- adamswann 6y agoI once introduced a bug that squared each customer's order quantity. Order 8 of the thing, we shipped 64. Oops. Nutshell: The items were sold in bundles. To arrive at the quantity to ship, you multiply the quantity of bundles ordered by the quantity of each item in the bundle (just 1 or 2 in most cases). I got my variables confused and multiplied the order quantity by itself. Not my best day.
- stevesimmons 6y agoI once saw this in a downstream system that if an order was entered calculated price with the square of the quantity. And the order in question was for 1000 400oz bars of gold (value $700k each).
- bombcar 6y agoThis can be hard to notice as the square of one is one.
- mrspuratic 6y agoMany years ago I went into my local bank to change my ATM daily withdrawal limit. Somehow the person behind the desk managed to change the name on my account to "Mr Mr" (but not change my withdrawal limit), so, along comes a new card in that name a couple of days later. It took 4 reissued cards to get my name back. Then they charged me for the extra cards. It took a short conversation with the bank manager to fix that. I guess it's true that computers just let you make mistakes faster (look at the names on the cards). Edit: No, apparently the cards had numbers/names inconsistently Photoshopped for privacy. My bad.
- Spooky23 6y agoLol. My former bank sent my debit cards to my former home for 10 years. My mortgage, checking, etc statements all got to my home addressed correctly. They held both mortgages and “fixed” it a dozen times.
- 317070 6y agoDid anyone see the movie Brazil? This is exactly what that movie is about. The bureaucratic-technological engine being prone to tiny errors, which have cascading effects on the people affected. And despite putting in some effort and telling that engine that what it is doing is ridiculous, fixing it is very much non-trivial. Luckily, this time the consequences are minor. A beautiful illustration of "La technique", the runaway engine of rationality and efficiency, as philosopher Jacques Ellul referred to it. This is a beautiful illustration of that concept!
- ryan29 6y agoThis is something that freaks me out about modern tech. Failure rates might be low, but a failure could be catastrophic for the person impacted. I remember seeing something similar in Ubiquiti's UniFi forum a few years back. Their WAPs and switches connect to a management portal you can self host and, after treating both http and https interchangeably forever, they decide https should be actual https. Before that, you could type https:// https://..., but the communication would not use TLS. They had customers with misconfigurations because they were consistently typing their inform (aka server) URL as https:// https:// instead of http:// http:// during device configuration. As soon those devices were updated, the new firmware would expect a proper TLS connection for https:// https:// URLs, so it would fail. I remember one person in the forum thread saying they bulk updated 600 devices spread across 300 sites and they all disappeared. That person made mistakes, but the configuration they were using was working, so why would they expect that to change? I tried to make the case that it should be considered a serious bug and part of the response was: > We discussed this internally and decided to move forward because 1) we didn't feel that there would be many affected That was a real eye opener for me and now I operate under the assumption that most tech companies won't have an issue completely ruining your life as long as it's only you or a small enough group of users that it won't have an impact on their bottom line.
- trthomps 6y agoHaving worked for several tech companies in the valley, this is absolutely the case, calls are made all the time that screw a small number of users to unblock progress.
- msbhvn 6y agoIn Peru debit cards don’t have names on them. So you just go to a branch and they take an unused one off the stack and assign and hand it to you. 5 mins, any branch, no appt. Quite convenient. Credit cards do have your name printed on and those you pick up at a branch when they arrive. I guess the US considers the printed name to be more important for debit cards.
- bityard 6y agoIn the US, debit cards and credit cards are processed by the same systems (by the same few handful of companies), so usually the only way you can tell the two apart visually is if the debit card literally says "debit" on it. Merchants have the option of verifying the cardholder by comparing the name to some photo ID but it's very uncommon. There is a box on the back to sign the card but in my experience, the Post Office is the only entity that has ever checked it.
- selimthegrim 6y agoMy impression was that if you sign it, they’re not supposed to ask for photo ID because the card company is bearing the risk (they could instead check the signature against the one on your receipt)
- moonfleet 6y agoIn Kazakhstan, we have debit card “ATMs”. You can have a named debit card printed out for you in a matter of minutes. All you need to do is to have it scan your QR in the bank’s mobile app. It’s quite convenient.
- nullserver 6y agoKnew a guy at Disney who noticed a problematic default value in a catalog application. He dropped an f-bomb while discussing its With higher ups. Well turns out you don’t use that language at Disney. Database problem got shelved. Few months later a very angry person called up about the multiple pallets of catalogs sitting in his front yard.
- thitcanh 6y agoClearly the higher ups were f-bomb-ing idiots. Who does that?
- floatingatoll 6y agoSomeone who doesn’t realize the worst-case scenario for the customer experience when presented with an engineering problem. (This is often both the engineer’s fault and the leader’s.)
- JohnnyHerz 6y agoSounds to me like you upgraded from 32k to 64k
- Havoc 6y agoJust got duplicate cards for priority pass from Amex as well
- dboreham 6y agoOff-by-6 bug in a shift expression.
- 404mm 6y agoGood thing it he received 64 and not 63.. you’d be worried forever that one got “lost” on mail.
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- NaturalPhallacy 6y agoThis just illustrates why it's a misunderstanding that banks - because they have to deal with money - are somehow better at tech or are more secure. Since it isn't actually how they make money, it turns out they're markedly worse at it. source: 4.5 years at a Too Big To Fail/Prosecute bank
- casefields 6y agoIt's actually a credit union.
- kevincox 6y agoEvery time a company advertises "bank-grade security" it lowers the bar in my mind. I guess the layperson thinks that banks have good technology but their security is mostly via the legal system.
- NaturalPhallacy 6y ago>very time a company advertises "bank-grade security" it lowers the bar in my mind. It should! >but their security is mostly via the legal system. Exactly! It's why I hope we eventually replace them with some cryptocurrency (math) based currency that cuts them out of the loop. They're parasites on society.
- newobj 6y agoLet me guess; your last name is '", 64'?
- itsthecourier 6y agoWhen your queue has a retry feature on and you don't realize it does
- kizer 6y agoMan, I miss old Reddit. The “nerdy” UI was appealing to me.
- kevincox 6y agoThere is a setting to use old reddit for www.reddit.com. Or you can visit old.reddit.com.
- ehwhyreally 6y agoI have a feeling this has something to do with 64 bits.... Of cards.
- airhead969 6y agoI'm wondering if a race-condition, or data or instruction bit-flip caused this.
- danschumann 6y agoThe comments on that threads are so... imaginative.
- throwaheyy 6y agoAmerican Express credit cards have the interesting property that 3 out of the last 4 digits are almost always ‘100’. Because many UIs only show the last 4 digits, and because of the birthday paradox, it only takes 4 American Express cards saved to a website before you have a 50% chance of 2 of them being indistinguishable from one another. https://www.doctorofcredit.com/last-four-digits-american-express-card-numbers-birthday-problem/ https://www.doctorofcredit.com/last-four-digits-american-exp...
- th0ma5 6y agoWould be a funny thing go to the same place or various places with the same group of people and just keep cutting up your card after you pay the bill without any explanation.
- sdfhbdf 6y agoWhen I read comments about horror stories in this thread I gotta say I'm fairly removed from these problems since in our country we're mostly moving to paying via phone, virtual cards, sending transfers to a phone number and such. > According to Delloite, the Polish banking market is the leader of digital maturity in Internet and mobile channels https://www.consdata.com/en/blog/ultra-modern-banks-in-poland-and-their-impact-on-the-global-banking-market https://www.consdata.com/en/blog/ultra-modern-banks-in-polan... If anybody wants a taste of well developed an functioning electronic payments system come to Poland. We accept contactless almost everywhere, often times even on street markets and stands.
- tcbasche 6y agoIt’s like this too even in major cities in Australia. Market stalls and the like all seem to have the Square tap-and-go things. I don’t even think I’ve used an actual card in a long time, just my phone. The pandemic probably helped move things along too
- luckystarr 6y agoThis is a prime example of a non-idempotent function call. :)