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I’ll take your word for it. I can think of many fulfilling things I’d rather be doing if I didn’t have to work everyday.

by et2o 6y ago

1996 6y ago
> I’d rather be doing if I didn’t have to work everyday. For a while, then it would lose meaning. I tried not working, it made me feel very empty inside. Human need goals. We aren't made to be idle for a long time. I'll try to explain that better: "Fuck you" is when you refuse or sever a social connection. Don't do it too often. Because when you don't need any social connection, you have successfully create your gilded cage. I've learned from my mistakes: Now I'm still retired but I work here and there, doing consulting or helping people, and learning biology. It feels much better.
- toolz 6y ago
  There are many objectives that are interesting to pursue that don't have anything to do with working to sustain a lifestyle. I can sympathize for people who have traveled the beaten path for so long they're unsure how to create their own path once it's not laid out in front of them, but I think anyone in that position who laments their situation must lack any creativity or drive to learn how to create their own unique goals.
- lukebuehler 6y ago
  Not sure why people downvote you. I’m not in your situation, but I often wonder if I’d have a lot of FU money if I would experience a lot of ennui. I think people really don’t understand how lonely it can be at the top. Even Musk keeps saying, “you don’t want to be me.”
  - krapp 6y ago
    No one wants to hear the rich complain about the burden of wealth, the loneliness of power and the ennui of endless opportunity. Even if it's true. Let them eat cake.
    - lukebuehler 6y ago
      I think this is outright foolish. So many spend all this time trying to make it, especially on this site. I’m no better, but I would like to know what it’s like on the other side before I make all the sacrifices to get there. Say all these people say climbing Mount Everest is truly the most life changing thing they’ve ever done. Suddenly I start thinking maybe I should climb it too. I would love to hear stories to the contrary before I make the commitment.
      - krapp 6y ago
        The ersatz straitjacket of wealth, power and privilege never seems so restrictive that the wealthy who complain about it ever give it all up for the freedom to go slum with the proletariat. That should tell you all you need to know.
        1996 6y ago
        You can peddle your communist propaganda somewhere else comrade
        krapp 6y ago
        You can say whatever you like, I'm not wrong. Reading your comment history, you seem to wear your selfishness and contempt for the poor as a badge of honor. So clearly whatever negative effects your apparent wealth might have on you psychologically or socially, you would rather deal with that than life among the working class. And I don't blame you, the entire political and financial apparatus of capitalist society is designed to protect the status, wealth and privilege of people like yourself at the expense of everyone else grinding their lives away under the millstone. Obviously the best thing to be in a capitalist society is a capitalist, to whom capital and the benefits of capital are intended to flow, rather than one of the shmucks being fed to Moloch. But as far as feeling sympathy for the plight of the wealthy - I'm not a communist or even a socialist but I'm playing The Internationale on the world's smallest violin right now.
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Tade0 6y ago
And there's no limit to what can be done with enough money. Have, say, a billion or more to spend? Start your own damn space program.
- 1996 6y ago
  > And there's no limit to what can be done with enough money. Actually, there are: coming from your imagination. So I'm learning biology. When I'm done I won't bother with a postdoc but just start a research lab (or buy one). It has helped me feel less empty, but the pandemic did hit me badly.
  - Tade0 6y ago
    I feel you. I was laid off in June and spent three months passively-aggressively not participating in the job market. I thought I would pick up all those side projects which I abandoned due to lack of time but nope - it just didn't happen.
    - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
      Weirdly enough, I often get the most done on side projects when I'm busiest. It's easier to do more stuff when you're already doing a lot. When you don't have to do anything, then it's hard to do any one thing (for me, at least).

I’ll take your word for it. I can think of many fulfilling things I’d rather be doing if I didn’t have to work everyday.

by et2o 6y ago

I’ll take your word for it. I can think of many fulfilling things I’d rather be doing if I didn’t have to work everyday.

1996 6y ago

> I’d rather be doing if I didn’t have to work everyday. For a while, then it would lose meaning. I tried not working, it made me feel very empty inside. Human need goals. We aren't made to be idle for a long time. I'll try to explain that better: "Fuck you" is when you refuse or sever a social connection. Don't do it too often. Because when you don't need any social connection, you have successfully create your gilded cage. I've learned from my mistakes: Now I'm still retired but I work here and there, doing consulting or helping people, and learning biology. It feels much better.

toolz 6y ago
There are many objectives that are interesting to pursue that don't have anything to do with working to sustain a lifestyle. I can sympathize for people who have traveled the beaten path for so long they're unsure how to create their own path once it's not laid out in front of them, but I think anyone in that position who laments their situation must lack any creativity or drive to learn how to create their own unique goals.
lukebuehler 6y ago
Not sure why people downvote you. I’m not in your situation, but I often wonder if I’d have a lot of FU money if I would experience a lot of ennui. I think people really don’t understand how lonely it can be at the top. Even Musk keeps saying, “you don’t want to be me.”
- krapp 6y ago
  No one wants to hear the rich complain about the burden of wealth, the loneliness of power and the ennui of endless opportunity. Even if it's true. Let them eat cake.
  - lukebuehler 6y ago
    I think this is outright foolish. So many spend all this time trying to make it, especially on this site. I’m no better, but I would like to know what it’s like on the other side before I make all the sacrifices to get there. Say all these people say climbing Mount Everest is truly the most life changing thing they’ve ever done. Suddenly I start thinking maybe I should climb it too. I would love to hear stories to the contrary before I make the commitment.
    - krapp 6y ago
      The ersatz straitjacket of wealth, power and privilege never seems so restrictive that the wealthy who complain about it ever give it all up for the freedom to go slum with the proletariat. That should tell you all you need to know.
      - 1996 6y ago
        You can peddle your communist propaganda somewhere else comrade
        krapp 6y ago
        You can say whatever you like, I'm not wrong. Reading your comment history, you seem to wear your selfishness and contempt for the poor as a badge of honor. So clearly whatever negative effects your apparent wealth might have on you psychologically or socially, you would rather deal with that than life among the working class. And I don't blame you, the entire political and financial apparatus of capitalist society is designed to protect the status, wealth and privilege of people like yourself at the expense of everyone else grinding their lives away under the millstone. Obviously the best thing to be in a capitalist society is a capitalist, to whom capital and the benefits of capital are intended to flow, rather than one of the shmucks being fed to Moloch. But as far as feeling sympathy for the plight of the wealthy - I'm not a communist or even a socialist but I'm playing The Internationale on the world's smallest violin right now.
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Tade0 6y ago

And there's no limit to what can be done with enough money. Have, say, a billion or more to spend? Start your own damn space program.

1996 6y ago
> And there's no limit to what can be done with enough money. Actually, there are: coming from your imagination. So I'm learning biology. When I'm done I won't bother with a postdoc but just start a research lab (or buy one). It has helped me feel less empty, but the pandemic did hit me badly.
- Tade0 6y ago
  I feel you. I was laid off in June and spent three months passively-aggressively not participating in the job market. I thought I would pick up all those side projects which I abandoned due to lack of time but nope - it just didn't happen.
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    Weirdly enough, I often get the most done on side projects when I'm busiest. It's easier to do more stuff when you're already doing a lot. When you don't have to do anything, then it's hard to do any one thing (for me, at least).