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The Sweden Solar System
- peteretep 6y agoI hadn’t appreciated that Saturn is almost twice as far from the Sun as Jupiter is, or how far out Uranus and Neptune are. Here’s another representation (although obviously the planet sizes are way wrong): https://fineartamerica.com/featured/solar-system-distances-to-scale-mark-garlick.html https://fineartamerica.com/featured/solar-system-distances-t...
- SamBam 6y agoThe spacing of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune actually seem quite natural in that image. It's the cluster of tiny rocks near the sun that distorts our perception!
- ggaughan 6y agoI think there's an under-appreciated pattern to the distances: https://wordloosed.com/the-planets https://wordloosed.com/the-planets
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoWe have something similar here in my home town, at a smaller scale [0], along local bike paths. You get from the sun to Mars in what seems like no time at all, but the distance from Neptune to Pluto is a little over 2/5ths of the entire ride. [0] 200M:1 http://www.spaceplace.wisc.edu/planettrek.htm http://www.spaceplace.wisc.edu/planettrek.htm
- arethuza 6y ago"If the Moon were only 1 Pixel" gives a good sensation of the distances through the medium of scrolling: https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.... Edit: Notice the option to travel at lightspeed.... this isn't quite as exciting as you might think.
- lovecg 6y agoExcept if you could really approach lightspeed the distances would approach zero, so there’s that.
- arethuza 6y agoTime dilation as well, which probably helps ;-)
- marshmallow_12 6y agowow. you get a lot more respect for gravity after seeing that. basically, in empty space, i could exert an influence on a bottlecap 10,000 miles away. or something like that, the numbers are entirely irrelevant.
- horsburgh 6y agoNew Zealand has one too: https://www.otagocentralrailtrail.co.nz/ride/an-interplanetary-ride/ https://www.otagocentralrailtrail.co.nz/ride/an-interplaneta... It's hundred million to one, so the scale speed of light is a little under 3 m/s (10.8 kmh). So at a very comfortable cycling speed you're moving at twice the speed of light. Exactly as AnIdiotOnTheNet says you get through the inner planets in no time flat but it takes forever to get through the outer ones.
- h1fra 6y agoamazing idea
- simplecto 6y agoI'm shocked how many Swedes (and Stockholmers in particular) don't know this. They just think that Globen (the Sun) is just a big spherical venue. EDIT - but to be fair there is also a surprising lack of signage or announcement that such a thing exists.
- capableweb 6y agoI mean, it's not super weird to see a globe structure somewhere and assume it's just a globe without being part of some elaborate country-wide solarsystem. Here is a tiny list of some more, but I'm sure there exists 1000s more around the world: https://second.wiki/wiki/liste_kugelfc3b6rmiger_bauwerke https://second.wiki/wiki/liste_kugelfc3b6rmiger_bauwerke
- bellyfullofbac 6y agoWell, if it was empty then it would be strange, but it's a venues hall for concerts, etc., and people could've just thought it's just the architects being creative.
- JKCalhoun 6y agoStayed in a hotel near the Ericsson Globe. No clue. When I saw the tiny Venus (or was it Mercury?) on a pedestal in downtown Stockholm, I suspected something was up.
- rob74 6y agoI don't think it was built this way with the intention to symbolize the Sun. Making it the center of a model Solar System was probably more of an afterthought (although a really cool one).
- TorKlingberg 6y agoI mean, it is a big spherical venue. Representing the Sun is more of a secondary use.
- spurgu 6y agoGloben just means literally "the globe".
- gardenerofwine 6y agoSomeone also built a scale model of the solar system in the desert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4524AAZdE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4524AAZdE
- GuB-42 6y agoCody put a few solar system objects on a stadium, with distances to scale, the sun is represented by a pea. He then proceeds to drive cross country to put on the closest stars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSIXLIzhzk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSIXLIzhzk
- philbert101 6y agoThis is super cool! I’ve lived in Stockholm for almost 15 years and I had no idea about this. Just for fun I plotted the route on google maps. I have my doubts I’ll be able to convince my wife this is a worth-while road trip... https://goo.gl/maps/TYTSnCVA9Vi8s4MMA https://goo.gl/maps/TYTSnCVA9Vi8s4MMA
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- lukego 6y agoYeah this is great right! We stumbled on Halley's Comet at the local science museum here in Skövde and it'll really spice up travel around Sweden for the kids a bit.
- jfengel 6y agoDo they move Halley's Comet? Its period is short enough that a decade makes a real noticeable difference in its distance from the sun, and its total period is shorter than some science museums have been open.
- nixy 6y agoYou should definitely be able to convince her this is a road trip to take! On the way you will pass the lovely Virgin coast archipelago as well as be able to visit the UNESCO world heritage sites Decorated Farmhouses of Hälsingland and the High Coast. Go for the road trip!
- jb1991 6y agoUnrelated, but what do you think of Stockholm after 15 years? What part of the world were you coming from before you moved there?
- dehrmann 6y agoI only spent a few months there, but I usually tell people it's a hard city to hate.
- davidrm 6y agothere's one in my hometown (Zagreb) as well! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Views https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Views Here's some blogpost with nice pictures https://punkufer.dnevnik.hr/galerija/gdje-se-u-zagrebu-nalaze-planeti-suncevog-sustava---468982.html/61335895/468982 https://punkufer.dnevnik.hr/galerija/gdje-se-u-zagrebu-nalaz...
- didymospl 6y agoI was just going to write that there's one in Zurich too (https://www.zuerich.com/en/visit/sport/planet-trail https://www.zuerich.com/en/visit/sport/planet-trail located in a very enjoyable area, highly recommend) but thanks to your wikipedia link I found a comprehensive list of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System_model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System_model Looks like Sweden's model is in fact the largest in the world(that is apart from the original)
- bloodorange 6y agoMelbourne has one too: http://thenomadicexplorers.com/sites/default/files/users/65/files/australia-victoria-melbourne-362/THE%20MELBOURNE%20SOLAR%20SYSTEM.pdf http://thenomadicexplorers.com/sites/default/files/users/65/... (Not as big as the one in Sweden though)
- mncharity 6y ago> Not as big as the one in Sweden though Not as big? Meh. It's a Megameter per millimeter! Yay![1] :) [1] http://www.clarifyscience.info/assets/2017-Atoms/assets0/r/1512_zoom.mp4 http://www.clarifyscience.info/assets/2017-Atoms/assets0/r/1... Old user test video I did - Powers of Ten-like, but with 3 order-of-magnitude chunking. Crufty source: http://www.clarifyscience.info/part/Atoms#how-to-remember-sizes http://www.clarifyscience.info/part/Atoms#how-to-remember-si...
- madspindel 6y agoNever heard of this before - amazing! /a swede
- rmdsnd 6y agoSame here, and neither did my gf even though we've both been there and spent a good +30 years a residents of Sweden. Really cool!
- bluesmoon 6y agoAlso in the Boston Area. The sun, Mercury and Venus are in the Museum of Science. Earth is supposed to be in the Royal Sonesta hotel, but I believe it was moved to clean the area and never put back. Mars is in the Galleria mall, Jupiter is at South Station, and the rest of the planets are much further out. More details at https://www.bostoncentral.com/activities/landmarks/p1018.php https://www.bostoncentral.com/activities/landmarks/p1018.php
- jetrink 6y ago> Earth is supposed to be in the Royal Sonesta hotel, but I believe it was moved to clean the area and never put back. Ha, that is straight out of a Douglas Adams book.
- bluesmoon 6y agoIn Boston it's called the Big Dig
- natdempk 6y agoSadly it seems like a few of them are missing these days from the Boston equivalent: https://gregcookland.com/wonderland/2018/02/09/community-solar-system/ https://gregcookland.com/wonderland/2018/02/09/community-sol...
- moh_maya 6y agoThere's one in Ithaca, NY (home of Cornell univ) as well. It's spread over 1.2 km, and is just a fun walk. [1] Ithaca is just such a wonderful place to live, winters included! [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_Planet_Walk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_Planet_Walk
- josefresco 6y agoThere’s one in northern Maine along Route 1 from Houlton to Presque Ise. Very cool, I annoy the kids with my excitement every time.
- InitialLastName 6y agoMy favorite part of that one is the tiny Pluto IIRC mounted on a plaque on a rest stop wall.
- emj 6y agoPluto in Delsbo, Sweden is pretty nice as well, but it made me more interested in the larger Eris, that is further north.
- zachbeane 6y agoIt extends to Topsfield. At the intersection of Route 1 and Route 6 there's a model of Eris.
- mayormcmatt 6y agoTwo years ago I visited Stockholm and rode a borrowed bike from the Sun (Globen) out to Mars (Mörby Centrum) and visited all the planets along the way. Life goal is to do the entire thing. Trip only took a few hours and there are plentiful bike lanes to reach that far. Along the way, or on the way back, check out the Hagaparken, Natural History Museum, and campus of Stockholm University.
- specialist 6y agoI don't understand the Jupiter model, as shown. Not that it needs to make sense to me. It'd be super cool to have multiple depictions of each planet. Like all the school kids along Mars' orbit could all make their own Mars.
- SamBam 6y agoI get the impression that few of the planets are necessarily considered permanent installations, but rather sculptures that may get replaced over time. > Jupiter was for many years represented by an arrangement of flowers outside Sky City at Arlanda Airport. In may 2019 a new model was inaugurated in Hotel Clarion connected to Sky City. The model is in the form of a shining ring
- mayormcmatt 6y agoTo my great regret, I never saw either Jupiter model at Arlanda, despite being there those years, because I always arrive last-minute to the airport. Next time...
- randomswede 6y agoLast time I was through Arlanda, I tried finding the Jupiter model. Foudn (I think) the right hotel and multiple Jupiterian moons, but not Jupiter itself. In 2018 or 2019, I did a public transport tour from the Sun out to Mars. I found it quite fun.
- chromaton 6y agoOne in Gainesville, Georgia, USA: https://www.exploregeorgia.org/gainesville/entertainment/tours/walking-tour-of-our-solar-system https://www.exploregeorgia.org/gainesville/entertainment/tou...
- marshmallow_12 6y ago-Mars is connected to a plate in steel symbolizing the Earth. ?
- galago 6y agoEugene, Oregon, USA http://members.efn.org/~jack_v/ http://members.efn.org/~jack_v/
- smusamashah 6y agoHow true to scale is it?
- AdamN 6y agoWould be sweet if they had the Voyager spacecrafts too.
- danaliv 6y agoAt this scale, Voyager 1 would be in Tromsø, Norway. Truly, it has departed the solar system!
- mormegil 6y agoOne in Prague (CZ): https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9092952 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9092952
- mannylopez 6y agoPeoria, Illinois has one too and claims the "world's most complete large-scale model of the Solar System. The scale factor is 99,000,000:1, covering 6,000 square miles of Central Illinois."[0] and you can "become a part of the world's most complete large scale model of the Solar System by purchasing an Unnamed Comet Plaque in the Peoria Riverfront Museum Store. Unnamed comet plaques are located on all seven continents, stretching as far north as Barrow, Alaska, and as far south as South Pole Station, Antarctica."[1] [0] https://www.peoriariverfrontmuseum.org/dome-planetarium/community-solar-system https://www.peoriariverfrontmuseum.org/dome-planetarium/comm... [1] https://www.peoriariverfrontmuseum.org/dome-planetarium/community-solar-system/unnamed-comet-locations https://www.peoriariverfrontmuseum.org/dome-planetarium/comm...
- maxekman 6y agoThere is also a model in and around the natural history museum in Gothenburg, Sweden. Some of the planets are close to some really good MTB trails in the nearby forest Änggårdsbergen! https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6teborgs_Naturhistoriska_museum#Rymdpromenaden https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6teborgs_Naturhistoriska...
- sandworm101 6y ago>> Pluto and Charon are supported by two tomb-like pillars reminding of the mythological meaning of Pluto (Hades), the god of the underworld. And if anyone even thinks about removing that monument I will lead a total boycott of all Swedish educational institutions. In all seriousness, public art is how science and government present ideas. How planets are depicted, or not, modifies public behavior and thinking towards science. I do not want to see public art be used to promote one team of scientists over another[1] as they fight for naming rights to objects. The Swedish Solar System seems to have taken a very neutral stance on naming conventions, addressing most objects only by given name. It should stay that way. [1] "Planetary scientists" v. "Astronomers" as to who gets to classify objects. It is two increasingly different teams.
- Delk 6y agoApparently there are lots of these kinds of things around the world. I never knew that. There's one in the Helsinki area in Finland as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pajam%C3%A4ki_Solar_System_Scale_Model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pajam%C3%A4ki_Solar_System_Sca... The funny thing is that its most central parts (the Sun and the inner planets) are in the least central location, in a wooded area in the suburbs, close to an industrial zone. Many other similar models seem to have placed the planetary monuments in public buildings or plazas. Helsinki? Yeah, we'll place it in the middle of the woods next to a bunch of garages. (The reason for the location of the Sun might actually be that, according to the Wikipedia article, the model was designed by an amateur astronomer who has had his own observatory in the area. The model of Sun is also on a hill, which is nice and might make it more visible from further away except that, you know, it's not actually emitting a ridiculous amount of light.)
- dgritsko 6y agoThere's one with a 1 to 10 billion scale in Washington, D.C. The sun is located just outside the Air and Space Museum. Well worth your time to check out! https://www.jeffreybennett.com/model-solar-systems/voyage-scale-model-solar-system/ https://www.jeffreybennett.com/model-solar-systems/voyage-sc...
- ZeljkoS 6y agoThere are many of them around the world, maybe even near you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System_model#Scale_models_in_various_locations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System_model#Scale_model... I live in Zagreb, Croatia, and we have "Nine Views": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Views https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Views
- TooSmugToFail 6y agoYeah, the one in Zagreb has a much cooler story, I think. Plus it's really interesting to walk around town and discover all the planets.
- celias 6y agoGöttingen has the Planetenweg, a 1:2 billion-scale solar system https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/planetenweg-gottingen https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/planetenweg-gottingen
- qxfys 6y agolol.. I was jumping back and forth between mercury, venus, and earth everyday during my two years stay in Stockholm 6 years ago. I had no clue this thing exists!
- jerome-jh 6y agoWhen my daughter was in elementary school, she and I prepared a presentation where her teacher would be the sun, a soccer ball Jupiter, a volleyball saturn, and so on. Earth was a blue marble, moon a playdoh pellet. Distances where trickier and we did our best to associate them with local landmarks: bakery, park, ... Quite a bit of fun. For some time we kept calling the soccer ball Jupiter.