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> Who here is going to spend countless hours on that thankless task? Eh, I assume a lot of people? That's basically what the entire open source space is about!

> Who here is going to spend countless hours on that thankless task? Eh, I assume a lot of people? That's basically what the entire open source space is about! (the person one, not the "corporate open source" that is gaining traction lately) Don't forget that by "spending countless hours on a thankless task" is how we initially got tools like docker, ansible, bootstrap and more. I agree with your first part though, that there is probably a better, more efficient solution that carries chance of more sustainable results.

aloisdg 6y ago
or most of the modding community, wikipedia and much more.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  Exactly. Makes me wonder what happened with userscripts lately? Is that community still going? Are there any mechanisms - technological or social - that would let me feel safe about downloading a popular userscript without doing a full-day focused audit of it? I know this can be made to work - modding communities are a perfect example, you can have people dealing with crap and unexpected breakage on a timely basis and releasing trustworthy, high-value code for free. I just feel it didn't happen with userscripts for some reason.
  - capableweb 6y ago
    > Makes me wonder what happened with userscripts lately? Is that community still going? Oh yes, I still run userscripts from time to time. I've started using JS bookmarks more and more though, to control the triggering of user JS code whenever I want, rather than having something to run on each page load. But I think the new webextension stuff that Chrome initially released, and now supported by every major browser, ate the lunch of userscripts.
  - pwdisswordfish0 6y ago
    > Are there any mechanisms - technological or social - that would let me feel safe Yes: if FSF/GNU (or a similar organization in that orbit) ran their own repository of user scripts, in the vein of distros' package repos.

aloisdg 6y ago

or most of the modding community, wikipedia and much more.

TeMPOraL 6y ago
Exactly. Makes me wonder what happened with userscripts lately? Is that community still going? Are there any mechanisms - technological or social - that would let me feel safe about downloading a popular userscript without doing a full-day focused audit of it? I know this can be made to work - modding communities are a perfect example, you can have people dealing with crap and unexpected breakage on a timely basis and releasing trustworthy, high-value code for free. I just feel it didn't happen with userscripts for some reason.
- capableweb 6y ago
  > Makes me wonder what happened with userscripts lately? Is that community still going? Oh yes, I still run userscripts from time to time. I've started using JS bookmarks more and more though, to control the triggering of user JS code whenever I want, rather than having something to run on each page load. But I think the new webextension stuff that Chrome initially released, and now supported by every major browser, ate the lunch of userscripts.
- pwdisswordfish0 6y ago
  > Are there any mechanisms - technological or social - that would let me feel safe Yes: if FSF/GNU (or a similar organization in that orbit) ran their own repository of user scripts, in the vein of distros' package repos.