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So I have to ask, is there actually a member of this community that uses Oracle Cloud? To be completely honest I'm surprised

NearAP 6y ago
Oracle Apps are on cloud which means at the minimum most clients who use Oracle Apps use Oracle Cloud. Companies also use Oracle Cloud PaaS to build custom enterprise applications
hermanradtke 6y ago
Anyone who uses DynDNS is using Oracle Cloud.
- dekhn 6y ago
  when dyn got acquired, I stayed on for a while because I liked dyn. but after a bit, oracle cloud changed the terms and I didn't really like interacting with their systems or giving them any revenue so I switched to amazon, which has worked quite well for me.
- rgacote 6y ago
  And DynDNS was definitely down.
xbar 6y ago
I am.
- Clewza313 6y ago
  My condolences. Genuinely curious, how has it been?
spyridonas 6y ago
I do. 2 Free vms! The one is a gitlab worker when I reach my free gitlab minutes. The other hosts demo websites/ projects
- JorgeGT 6y ago
  Same, but VPS server and Grafana+InfluxDB.
- bigbizisverywyz 6y ago
  Do the servers have static IP addresses?
geogra4 6y ago
We do. Our stack is a fairly standard Java app on an oracle dB. Seems to work well enough. We couldn't get the app to work with azure and aws is a no go (we have retail clients)
- Aperocky 6y ago
  Were you affected? Wondering if your DNS is setup separately then you wouldn't be affected by whatever mishap that happened to Oracle's own DNS.
  - geogra4 6y ago
    We were not, oddly enough. I can't speak in too much detail since I'm not on that team but our region was included so we may just have been lucky
- sanderjd 6y ago
  Sorry I'm out of the loop: why does "we have retail clients" mean "aws is a no go".
  - candiddevmike 6y ago
    Retailers like wal mart supposedly demand their partners and suppliers to not use AWS.
    - rubin55 6y ago
      Can confirm, did large projects at huge retailer, AWS was cursed, anything but AWS, spoken by execs through clenched teeth.
    - grecy 6y ago
      and to clarify on the above reply, it's widely suspected that Amazon snoop at data hosted on AWS, so they can make/sell competing products that are selling well based on what they learn from snooping. So basically any business that makes or sells anything that Amazon may possibly make or sell in the future doesn't want to touch AWS.
salmo 6y ago
From what I've seen, Oracle Cloud usage is mostly to lift-and-shift legacy Oracle software packages off-prem and things that need low-latency access to them. It's more Oracle software as SaaS, some basic IaaS (more like a hosting provider than a cloud) and hosted Oracle databases (which are just Oracle running Exadata for you). So it's big companies struggling to get off old Oracle (and acquisitions like PeopleSoft) stuff and it's gross. I don't know of anyone using it as "their cloud", but more of another thing to mix in with AWS/Azure/GCP to get rid of on-prem or colo facilities. It's more like IBM Cloud: A way to hang on to customers, sell services (human services like consulting and support), and keep milking those old products for big companies.
- salmo 6y ago
  I should mention that you can't run Oracle RAC on any "real" public cloud, because it doesn't play nice with SDNs and needs shared block storage. People have done it with hacks (like VPN tunnels between hosts), but it's not performant and well, an unmaintainable hack. I've seen things like read-only single instance replicas of on-prem DBs, but uhhh. A stand-alone Oracle server isn't a reliable solution because patching = outage. So Oracle providing managed Exadata is a win for some (again, usually big) businesses. Oracle got a lot of companies hooked on proprietary DB features and rewriting can be painful or require spinning up a dev team for something in "maintenance mode". Even Amazon just fully got off Oracle a couple years go IIRC.
- rubin55 6y ago
  Just as a counterpoint, regarding your IBM Cloud snub, my small company has been doing our cloud needs with IBM for the past 5ish years, with great pricing, stability and support. The portfolio of non-ibm-specific services is huge.
  - porker 6y ago
    And much of IBM cloud was popular with smaller companies when it was SoftLayer, before IBM acquired it. I know one successful PaaS which has stayed, which to me says a lot about the quality of IBM Cloud
suyash 6y ago
I do running GraalVM, Node.JS projects on OCI and Digital Assistant for chatbot
stjohnswarts 6y ago
Sometimes you have to do things you aren't proud of. $20 is $20.
nojito 6y ago
Yup! Order of magnitude cheaper and way more predictable costs than other cloud providers.
rospaya 6y ago
I haven't investigated in more detail but Oracle Cloud supposedly has lower bandwidth costs than AWS and Azure, making it cheaper in the long run for transfer heavy services. That's why Zoom uses it. https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/why-zoom-chose-oracle-cloud-over-aws-and-maybe-you-should-too/ https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/why-zoom-chose-oracle-clo...
hansor 6y ago
I'm using it for over one year now as my backup remote programming platfrom and CI server for small projects (Jenkins), and on other server as mysql + minecraft server machine. Working flawlessly with ssh, out of the box. It is FAR simpler to manage than AWS in my opinion. There is "no catch".

NearAP 6y ago

Oracle Apps are on cloud which means at the minimum most clients who use Oracle Apps use Oracle Cloud. Companies also use Oracle Cloud PaaS to build custom enterprise applications

hermanradtke 6y ago

Anyone who uses DynDNS is using Oracle Cloud.

dekhn 6y ago
when dyn got acquired, I stayed on for a while because I liked dyn. but after a bit, oracle cloud changed the terms and I didn't really like interacting with their systems or giving them any revenue so I switched to amazon, which has worked quite well for me.
rgacote 6y ago
And DynDNS was definitely down.

xbar 6y ago

I am.

Clewza313 6y ago
My condolences. Genuinely curious, how has it been?

spyridonas 6y ago

I do. 2 Free vms! The one is a gitlab worker when I reach my free gitlab minutes. The other hosts demo websites/ projects

JorgeGT 6y ago
Same, but VPS server and Grafana+InfluxDB.
bigbizisverywyz 6y ago
Do the servers have static IP addresses?

geogra4 6y ago

We do. Our stack is a fairly standard Java app on an oracle dB. Seems to work well enough. We couldn't get the app to work with azure and aws is a no go (we have retail clients)

Aperocky 6y ago
Were you affected? Wondering if your DNS is setup separately then you wouldn't be affected by whatever mishap that happened to Oracle's own DNS.
- geogra4 6y ago
  We were not, oddly enough. I can't speak in too much detail since I'm not on that team but our region was included so we may just have been lucky
sanderjd 6y ago
Sorry I'm out of the loop: why does "we have retail clients" mean "aws is a no go".
- candiddevmike 6y ago
  Retailers like wal mart supposedly demand their partners and suppliers to not use AWS.
  - rubin55 6y ago
    Can confirm, did large projects at huge retailer, AWS was cursed, anything but AWS, spoken by execs through clenched teeth.
  - grecy 6y ago
    and to clarify on the above reply, it's widely suspected that Amazon snoop at data hosted on AWS, so they can make/sell competing products that are selling well based on what they learn from snooping. So basically any business that makes or sells anything that Amazon may possibly make or sell in the future doesn't want to touch AWS.

salmo 6y ago

From what I've seen, Oracle Cloud usage is mostly to lift-and-shift legacy Oracle software packages off-prem and things that need low-latency access to them. It's more Oracle software as SaaS, some basic IaaS (more like a hosting provider than a cloud) and hosted Oracle databases (which are just Oracle running Exadata for you). So it's big companies struggling to get off old Oracle (and acquisitions like PeopleSoft) stuff and it's gross. I don't know of anyone using it as "their cloud", but more of another thing to mix in with AWS/Azure/GCP to get rid of on-prem or colo facilities. It's more like IBM Cloud: A way to hang on to customers, sell services (human services like consulting and support), and keep milking those old products for big companies.

salmo 6y ago
I should mention that you can't run Oracle RAC on any "real" public cloud, because it doesn't play nice with SDNs and needs shared block storage. People have done it with hacks (like VPN tunnels between hosts), but it's not performant and well, an unmaintainable hack. I've seen things like read-only single instance replicas of on-prem DBs, but uhhh. A stand-alone Oracle server isn't a reliable solution because patching = outage. So Oracle providing managed Exadata is a win for some (again, usually big) businesses. Oracle got a lot of companies hooked on proprietary DB features and rewriting can be painful or require spinning up a dev team for something in "maintenance mode". Even Amazon just fully got off Oracle a couple years go IIRC.
rubin55 6y ago
Just as a counterpoint, regarding your IBM Cloud snub, my small company has been doing our cloud needs with IBM for the past 5ish years, with great pricing, stability and support. The portfolio of non-ibm-specific services is huge.
- porker 6y ago
  And much of IBM cloud was popular with smaller companies when it was SoftLayer, before IBM acquired it. I know one successful PaaS which has stayed, which to me says a lot about the quality of IBM Cloud

suyash 6y ago

I do running GraalVM, Node.JS projects on OCI and Digital Assistant for chatbot

stjohnswarts 6y ago

Sometimes you have to do things you aren't proud of. $20 is $20.

nojito 6y ago

Yup! Order of magnitude cheaper and way more predictable costs than other cloud providers.

rospaya 6y ago

I haven't investigated in more detail but Oracle Cloud supposedly has lower bandwidth costs than AWS and Azure, making it cheaper in the long run for transfer heavy services. That's why Zoom uses it. https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/why-zoom-chose-oracle-cloud-over-aws-and-maybe-you-should-too/ https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/why-zoom-chose-oracle-clo...

hansor 6y ago

I'm using it for over one year now as my backup remote programming platfrom and CI server for small projects (Jenkins), and on other server as mysql + minecraft server machine. Working flawlessly with ssh, out of the box. It is FAR simpler to manage than AWS in my opinion. There is "no catch".