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This would make me absolutely explode. I can do the pihole route but I'd rather we had legal control over what's being displayed on our TVs.

Myztiq 6y ago
Most of these ads are actually built into the firmware, I have a pihole set up and I still get ads from my tv, sometimes even on startup there will be a new thing appearing in the corner. Next up is preventing it from accessing the internet entirely, but then I'd need to have a second remote to actually watch my content.
cphajduk 6y ago
Looking forward to jailbreaking my TV.
- MikeUt 6y ago
  Illegal due to DMCA.
TameAntelope 6y ago
I turned the ads off in my LG TV, took 5 minutes and now it behaves exactly as a dumb TV would to my eyes. I’m surprised by this community’s refusal to spend even a small amount of time hacking on their TV. Maybe you think it should “just” work, but when is that ever the case?
- progman32 6y ago
  My TVs "just" worked from the late 1980s until 2020, which is when I downgraded to a smart tv.
- sodality2 6y ago
  Because 70% of the population will never bother doing that. And then it creeps higher, as people get used to it. "Sure it's opt out, that means it's not forced" is a horrible argument for an anti-consumer move. Wait until IP's are hardcoded and ads can't be turned off, on any consumer TV, because there's no more demand for dumb ones, and it maximizes profit.
  - TameAntelope 6y ago
    We've got folks here declaring they'd march into the store they bought their TV from and demand a refund. That's not a very hacker mindset, is my point. Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life.
    - sodality2 6y ago
      >I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life. I mean, yeah, I did too, but I'm also writing letters to my reps for the people who don't know how to do that. >Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'm not saying you'd be okay with it, in fact I think your view is pretty reasonable. Personally I want to stop this sort of thing from being on by default, personalized tracking on nearly every TV, etc.
novok 6y ago
Legislation saying that "network off" settings need to be respected and the device needs to work as much as a possible without a network connection, on pain of 2x revenue + penalty from whatever agreements you made selling data would go a long way. No more cars that spy on you as you drive around when you turn of network services, no more TVs that spy on what you watch and so on.
- b0tzzzzzzman 6y ago
  Rental cars .. Well cars in general used to have Aux ports. Not any more. And the default is always to sync contacts. Its out of hand.
- titzer 6y ago
  What you sounds quite reasonable...from a consumer perspective. Laws are not written for consumers. You have no power and no voice and the vast majority of people are so completely checked out of reality that you are hopelessly outnumbered. Oh, and big business and government surveillance are both lined up on the other side. We are losing this one.

Myztiq 6y ago

Most of these ads are actually built into the firmware, I have a pihole set up and I still get ads from my tv, sometimes even on startup there will be a new thing appearing in the corner. Next up is preventing it from accessing the internet entirely, but then I'd need to have a second remote to actually watch my content.

cphajduk 6y ago

Looking forward to jailbreaking my TV.

MikeUt 6y ago
Illegal due to DMCA.

TameAntelope 6y ago

I turned the ads off in my LG TV, took 5 minutes and now it behaves exactly as a dumb TV would to my eyes. I’m surprised by this community’s refusal to spend even a small amount of time hacking on their TV. Maybe you think it should “just” work, but when is that ever the case?

progman32 6y ago
My TVs "just" worked from the late 1980s until 2020, which is when I downgraded to a smart tv.
sodality2 6y ago
Because 70% of the population will never bother doing that. And then it creeps higher, as people get used to it. "Sure it's opt out, that means it's not forced" is a horrible argument for an anti-consumer move. Wait until IP's are hardcoded and ads can't be turned off, on any consumer TV, because there's no more demand for dumb ones, and it maximizes profit.
- TameAntelope 6y ago
  We've got folks here declaring they'd march into the store they bought their TV from and demand a refund. That's not a very hacker mindset, is my point. Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life.
  - sodality2 6y ago
    >I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life. I mean, yeah, I did too, but I'm also writing letters to my reps for the people who don't know how to do that. >Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'm not saying you'd be okay with it, in fact I think your view is pretty reasonable. Personally I want to stop this sort of thing from being on by default, personalized tracking on nearly every TV, etc.

novok 6y ago

Legislation saying that "network off" settings need to be respected and the device needs to work as much as a possible without a network connection, on pain of 2x revenue + penalty from whatever agreements you made selling data would go a long way. No more cars that spy on you as you drive around when you turn of network services, no more TVs that spy on what you watch and so on.

b0tzzzzzzman 6y ago
Rental cars .. Well cars in general used to have Aux ports. Not any more. And the default is always to sync contacts. Its out of hand.
titzer 6y ago
What you sounds quite reasonable...from a consumer perspective. Laws are not written for consumers. You have no power and no voice and the vast majority of people are so completely checked out of reality that you are hopelessly outnumbered. Oh, and big business and government surveillance are both lined up on the other side. We are losing this one.