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I noticed the same thing: I opted out (both analytics and ads options) a few months ago when I switched to T-Mobile. They since ignored my preferences and opted
by idatum 6y ago
I noticed the same thing: I opted out (both analytics and ads options) a few months ago when I switched to T-Mobile. They since ignored my preferences and opted me back in. Unbelievable. I don't even know when they did this.
Do I now have to keep checking on these settings??
Changing privacy preferences without my knowledge or permission must be made illegal. Total FB like move.
Also, I'm generally tired of this concept of "ads relevant to me" BS.
- SllX 6y agoExcept Facebook had respected every single privacy toggle I ever set when I had my account. I looked this morning expecting to find an additional toggle and found several settings I thought were toggled off were toggled on. I was thinking this was an oversight on my part until I saw this thread, but now I’m not so sure.
- luplex 6y agoI'm pretty sure Facebook is really careful around this stuff. it's illegal for them to ignore your previously made privacy choices. Facebook can't afford to break the law in such an obvious way.
- SllX 6y agoNo, I’m going to give them full kudos here, not the cynical “they have to be careful because reasons” type of kudos, but the full-bodied rich in flavor type of kudos. I created my account in 2007 and would regularly check the privacy settings every time they made a change of any kind up to the point I stopped using and later removed the account over a decade later. Not one privacy setting that I exerted manual control over ever changed out from under me. Whatever controversies they came under in that time with all the additional accompanying scrutiny, this aspect never changed. Perhaps there are counter examples out there, but that’s how it was for me.
- cm2012 6y agoFB is more careful about privacy than 98% of companies their size.
- samb1729 6y agoDo there exist 50 companies their size for that number to make sense?
- luplex 6y agoI'd slightly modify that: FB is careful about privacy law, but its business model is about extracting private data.
- cm2012 6y agoOne example: The NYTimes will sell your name + home address to other advertisers to send you mail. FB does not share your personal information with anyone, it just lets people serve ads to you on the platform based on it.
- scubazealous 6y agoThey are careful about privacy when you are careful of your own. There are millions of users who do not change the default settings.
- walkedaway 6y agoMaybe recently, but early last decade (2010-ish) they didn't. It's why I haven't had a Facebook account since then. After opting out of sharing my data, I would see my data (namely, my Facebook friends likes) pop up on third-party websites.
- SllX 6y agoAll of those asinine social widgets were loaded straight from Facebook.com, so it was less a case of sharing your info as it was if you were signed into Facebook, then those widgets would behave as if they were on Facebook and not a third party site. I also don’t recall if there were settings for those things, probably not because learning how else Facebook used those widgets to profile me was what prompted me to quarantine Facebook to Chrome, blacklist Facebook’s domains in NoScript and reduce then eliminate my usage.
- don-code 6y agoThe answer seems to be "yes", for several reasons: 1) I also once changed my privacy preferences, but have since been opted back in. 2) I wouldn't have even known to check were it not for Hacker News, which is _not_ how I, nor hopefully anyone, would want to be notified of changes to my/their T-Mobile account. 3) I'm greeted with a generic "Update Operation Failed" when I try to opt any of the lines on my account back out, so now I have even less faith that my changes will stick.
- jonplackett 6y agoVote with your $$$. Get a new mobile network.
- hyperbovine 6y agoHard to do when "# of alternative networks" is tending asymptotically to zero.
- jonplackett 6y agoIt's weird/sad how the land of capitalism is trending towards the land of monopolism.
- marshmallow_12 6y agothat is what capitalisim is.
- skynet-9000 6y agothat's what socialism is (well, if they're govt controlled or effectively govt controlled). real capitalism encourages competition, and real entrepreneurs try to discourage it and gain an effective monopoly. that tension is part of the beauty of the whole thing, but when govt approves these mergers with government granted monopolies (i.e., the wireless spectrum), then it all goes to pot very fast.
- cbsks 6y agoMe three. I definitely have opted out of analytics and ad tracking before, but I just rechecked my settings in the T-Mobile app and both were enabled. What a slimey thing for them to do. Does anyone have any suggestions for a better cell carrier in the US?
- harlanji 6y agoYuck. I just switched to them from Verizon who I left for scummy business practice. On to the next carrier, AT&T.
- ramphastidae 6y agoAT&T is the absolute worst of the three IMO. Poorest offering, highest cost.
- skynet-9000 6y agoTheir prepaid plan is only $25/mo w/ 8gb lte when prepaid the year in advance. That's wayyy cheaper than any of the other big players, and their network/coverage is supposed to be better than t-mobile (and almost as good as verizon).
- Gh0stRAT 6y ago>That's wayyy cheaper than any of the other big players T-Mobile has a $15/mo prepaid plan without having to pay a year in advance.
- belinder 6y agoI'm using Mint, but they only do phones, so you can't bundle with stuff like tv or internet
- yellowapple 6y agoI mean, the same can be said about T-Mobile, which to my knowledge offers neither of those things (unless you count the free Netflix).
- behringer 6y agoCommunicate with your wallet.