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Outbrain and Taboola are as sneaky as the cybersurveillance and they might cover the same thing after all. Not sure how far this will go without any consequence
by tacheiordache 6y ago
Outbrain and Taboola are as sneaky as the cybersurveillance and they might cover the same thing after all. Not sure how far this will go without any consequences until Israelis decide it's not the right thing to do and it is bad for the country in the long run.
- BitwiseFool 6y agoIt's an easy jump from digital surveillance to targeted advertising. The only difference is who pays for the data.
- rvnx 6y agoOr just invest in a digital advertising company (example: Facebook and In-Q-Tel)
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- beagle3 6y agoThey are less sneaky and have less reach than Google and Facebook - but are comparable (they provide some value to users, but mostly to advertisers at the expense of users - and they keep most of that value for themselves. On a smaller scale) Why do you expect them (or Israelis in general) to decide that’s not the right thing to do? Do you expect the same of Google or Facebook? Or Americans for that matter?
- threatofrain 6y ago> “Most Israelis think that intelligence is pure and slick,” he says. He came to see IDF intelligence as blunt, dirty work. “Old school things,” he says. Like blackmailing gay Palestinians, he explains. Or threatening to cut off medical care from people with health problems. Or threatening the families of people with health problems. But when it comes to criticism of 8200, K. is an anomaly among his peers. Many are more like Raphael Ouzan — true believers.
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- dagav 6y agoLiterally every intelligence service does this, they're called "assets"[1]. Right and wrong isn't as black and white as you may think. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_(intelligence) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_(intelligence)
- pboutros 6y agoI think blackmailing someone in the closet is almost always wrong -- I'm sure there's some contrived edge case that could be thought of, but as a whole, it's never okay. Just because most / all intelligence agencies do something doesn't mean it's okay. It's unambiguously wrong.
- dagav 6y agoThere is a moral obligation to blackmail people who have material information about an imminent terror attack, or anything else which may threaten innocent lives. If I were you, I'd be much more concerned about why being exposed as gay in the Palestinian Territories is a threat capable of flipping an asset.
- solosoyokaze 6y agoThere is no moral high-ground for Israel. They are the colonizing force and they're committing war crimes and illegal annexing of Palestinian land. They're also blackmailing people for being gay as per the article.
- dagav 6y agoIf the Israelis laid down their arms, there would be a second Holocaust. If the Arabs laid down their arms, there would be peace. I call that moral high ground.
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- tw04 6y ago>Why do you expect them (or Israelis in general) to decide that’s not the right thing to do? Do you expect the same of Google or Facebook? Or Americans for that matter? Google and Facebook are hacking journalist's phones and selling access to dictators for the purpose of planning an execution? Citation?
- beagle3 6y agoGP was talking about Outbrain and Taboola who are not as far as I know hacking anyone’s emails. That was what I was responding to.
- avipars 6y agothey are entirely based on fake news
- spoonjim 6y agoIsraelis have massively more genuine external threat than Americans so they are going to believe in the military industrial complex a lot longer.
- bosswipe 6y agoOr so they've been led to believe after 20 years of right wing hawkish rule.
- whearyou 6y agoIt's dirty as all heck. The people who run it are cowboys too I've heard.
- high_byte 6y agoMight be unpopular opinion but I think these do more damage than these private intelligence corporations. they ARE private intelligence corporations, just not (well not exactly) offensive cyber.
- joelbluminator 6y agoCan you explain what's so sneaky about Outbrain/Taboola? I understand there's some tracking going on but is there anything over the top?