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Real freedom would be freedom from the institution of wage labor
by qntty 6y ago
Real freedom would be freedom from the institution of wage labor
- mixedCase 6y agoYou can start a business in order to escape wage labor, with you being the boss. Or did you mean escape from labor?
- qntty 6y agoNo that would count. But the way we arrange things makes it impossible for everyone to escape wage labor. The way to do that would be to eliminate the legal framework for corporations and replace it with a framework for worker cooperatives which are run democratically by workers. The theory is if workers collectively employ themselves they're not being employed by someone else. Similar to how in political democracy, if citizens collectively govern themselves then they aren't being governed by someone else.
- mixedCase 6y agoBut cooperatives are a thing. They exist and they actually do work. And you can start one whenever you want with whoever you want. Do you just want to force every company to be a cooperative? If so, have you thought about why business owners tend to opt to own what they worked on?
- qntty 6y agoI don't think it's appropriate for the state to enforce contracts of wage labor, for similar reasons that they shouldn't enforce contracts of child labor or indentured servitude. No one would be forced to do anything, they can hire or do wage labor if they want, but the state wouldn't participate.
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- imtringued 6y agoNo, it wouldn't be, because without wage labor there would be no food, shelter and technological progress. Even in a post scarcity world we would still need people who at least develop new product ideas.