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>> one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them > Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right? > Do you have more

by ttt0 6y ago

>> one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them > Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right? > Do you have more examples? The first big deplatforming case was probably Cloudflare pulling The Daily Stormer. This is what Cloudflare CEO said: > "Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power." Seems like even he agrees that they shouldn't be allowed to do that.

matheusmoreira 6y ago
Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them.
- krapp 6y ago
  > Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them. I agree. We should make the government use its monopoly on force to take freedoms away from people we disagree with. How dare a company decide with whom it does business and under what terms?
  - matheusmoreira 6y ago
    Domain name registrars aren't normal companies. They're more like a government institution. The government can't refuse to recognize the fact I own my house just because they don't like my political opinions. Why should it be any different with internet domain names?
  - ttt0 6y ago
    There are already laws in place that do just that.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    It's not about agreement or disagreement, it's about monopolies. I am fine if the government takes away the freedom of corporations to grow arbitrarily large. I am also fine with the government making corporations choose between the ability to grow arbitrarily large and the ability to kick off users without due process. There's no need to take any freedoms away from normal-size companies.
- sodality2 6y ago
  He kicked it off of cloudflare, not the internet
  - ttt0 6y ago
    They were successfully censored from the internet for quite some time. I believe they were only available through the onion. They must've burned through like two dozens of domains at this point.
    - sodality2 6y ago
      Changing info at the registrar would have fixed this, they would probably have only lasted a few minutes w/o DDOS but it's not like cloudflare singlehandedly banished them from the internet. I mean, they sort of did due to the lack of protection, but it's not like cloudflare has the keys to the entire internet; just their ddos service.
      - ttt0 6y ago
        Sure, I'm not saying that they are the only people responsible. The thing is that everyone has the same mindset to the point where it seems almost like a coordinated effort. And Cloudflare's CEO admitted that the purpose behind their actions was to kick them off the internet.

by ttt0 6y ago

matheusmoreira 6y ago

Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them.

krapp 6y ago
> Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them. I agree. We should make the government use its monopoly on force to take freedoms away from people we disagree with. How dare a company decide with whom it does business and under what terms?
- matheusmoreira 6y ago
  Domain name registrars aren't normal companies. They're more like a government institution. The government can't refuse to recognize the fact I own my house just because they don't like my political opinions. Why should it be any different with internet domain names?
- ttt0 6y ago
  There are already laws in place that do just that.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  It's not about agreement or disagreement, it's about monopolies. I am fine if the government takes away the freedom of corporations to grow arbitrarily large. I am also fine with the government making corporations choose between the ability to grow arbitrarily large and the ability to kick off users without due process. There's no need to take any freedoms away from normal-size companies.
sodality2 6y ago
He kicked it off of cloudflare, not the internet
- ttt0 6y ago
  They were successfully censored from the internet for quite some time. I believe they were only available through the onion. They must've burned through like two dozens of domains at this point.
  - sodality2 6y ago
    Changing info at the registrar would have fixed this, they would probably have only lasted a few minutes w/o DDOS but it's not like cloudflare singlehandedly banished them from the internet. I mean, they sort of did due to the lack of protection, but it's not like cloudflare has the keys to the entire internet; just their ddos service.
    - ttt0 6y ago
      Sure, I'm not saying that they are the only people responsible. The thing is that everyone has the same mindset to the point where it seems almost like a coordinated effort. And Cloudflare's CEO admitted that the purpose behind their actions was to kick them off the internet.