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> There are hosts out there which will host you as long as you're not breaking any laws. Yea? Or must mean those “alt right hosts”. Because the second someone

> There are hosts out there which will host you as long as you're not breaking any laws. Yea? Or must mean those “alt right hosts”. Because the second someone ACTUALLY practices this, they’re themselves labeled as AltRight. See the problem? > Registrars won't take away your domain just because they don't like your site. Has a domain ever been seized without a court order? Ar15.com went down without warning, provocation, or cause because one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them. > Circumventing payment processor censorship is one of the many purposes of cryptocurrency technology. That’s one option... OR... we give equal protections to anyone not breaking the law?

matheusmoreira 6y ago
> Yea? Or must mean those “alt right hosts”. No, I mean hosts like Nearly Free Speech which has been operating since 2002. I've seen this one posted many times on HN and it seems great. https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ I understand what you mean though. Since they are usually smaller hosts, they aren't used by big name companies and eventually acquire a reputation for hosting only offensive content. > one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right? Do you have more examples? > we give equal protections to anyone not breaking the law? What do you mean?
- ttt0 6y ago
  >> one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them > Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right? > Do you have more examples? The first big deplatforming case was probably Cloudflare pulling The Daily Stormer. This is what Cloudflare CEO said: > "Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power." Seems like even he agrees that they shouldn't be allowed to do that.
  - matheusmoreira 6y ago
    Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them.
    - krapp 6y ago
      > Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them. I agree. We should make the government use its monopoly on force to take freedoms away from people we disagree with. How dare a company decide with whom it does business and under what terms?
      - matheusmoreira 6y ago
        Domain name registrars aren't normal companies. They're more like a government institution. The government can't refuse to recognize the fact I own my house just because they don't like my political opinions. Why should it be any different with internet domain names?
      - ttt0 6y ago
        There are already laws in place that do just that.
      - Dylan16807 6y ago
        It's not about agreement or disagreement, it's about monopolies. I am fine if the government takes away the freedom of corporations to grow arbitrarily large. I am also fine with the government making corporations choose between the ability to grow arbitrarily large and the ability to kick off users without due process. There's no need to take any freedoms away from normal-size companies.
    - sodality2 6y ago
      He kicked it off of cloudflare, not the internet
      - ttt0 6y ago

matheusmoreira 6y ago

> Yea? Or must mean those “alt right hosts”. No, I mean hosts like Nearly Free Speech which has been operating since 2002. I've seen this one posted many times on HN and it seems great. https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ I understand what you mean though. Since they are usually smaller hosts, they aren't used by big name companies and eventually acquire a reputation for hosting only offensive content. > one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right? Do you have more examples? > we give equal protections to anyone not breaking the law? What do you mean?

ttt0 6y ago
>> one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them > Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right? > Do you have more examples? The first big deplatforming case was probably Cloudflare pulling The Daily Stormer. This is what Cloudflare CEO said: > "Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power." Seems like even he agrees that they shouldn't be allowed to do that.
- matheusmoreira 6y ago
  Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them.
  - krapp 6y ago
    > Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them. I agree. We should make the government use its monopoly on force to take freedoms away from people we disagree with. How dare a company decide with whom it does business and under what terms?
    - matheusmoreira 6y ago
      Domain name registrars aren't normal companies. They're more like a government institution. The government can't refuse to recognize the fact I own my house just because they don't like my political opinions. Why should it be any different with internet domain names?
    - ttt0 6y ago
      There are already laws in place that do just that.
    - Dylan16807 6y ago
      It's not about agreement or disagreement, it's about monopolies. I am fine if the government takes away the freedom of corporations to grow arbitrarily large. I am also fine with the government making corporations choose between the ability to grow arbitrarily large and the ability to kick off users without due process. There's no need to take any freedoms away from normal-size companies.
  - sodality2 6y ago
    He kicked it off of cloudflare, not the internet
    - ttt0 6y ago