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This makes sense. There is other research indicating that intellectual knowledge does not translate into behavior. But direct or imagined experience does. So
by btilly 6y ago
This makes sense.
There is other research indicating that intellectual knowledge does not translate into behavior. But direct or imagined experience does.
So for example someone who can give all the right answers on a psychology test still acts the same under pressure. But people who have had to go through and reflect on simulated experiences will have that change actual behavior.
Therefore watching and discussing relationship movies is in line with what is known to actually change behavior.
The two books that made this point most effectively to me were Enlightenment Now and Thinking Fast, Thinking Slow. The first in the context of how much the rise of fiction changed the amount of empathy that people in general had. And the second explains it in terms of how intellectual knowledge only helps with the "thinking slow" parts of our brains, but you have to affect the "thinking fast" parts to change actual behavior.
- vagrantJin 6y agoOr... Fiction drives home unrealistic standards or extremes. I found the data to be dubious ofcourse. Just like we can extrapolate all sorts of nonsense from data - movies aabout relationships might not mean anything at all. Considering that life is 90% boring routine and fiction does not show or truly represent that boringness in order to sell the story. They need drama. Thats why writers wont write about a perfectly normal day with a couple talking about tiles for an hour dialog near the kitchen sink.
- _Microft 6y agoThe movies served as means to make couples talk about their own relationsship. Check the questions from the PDF that I linked elsewhere here to get a better idea.
- vagrantJin 6y ago> The movies served as means to make couples talk about their own relationship. Sure. The next one should be titled Taylor Swift lyrics decrease divorce rate by 45% but Nicki Minaj lyrics don't. I'm sure the methodology will hold up equally well. Marriage ad the strongest legally recognised relationship outside blood relations - needs interventions so that couples can talk. Is this an approximation of the problem statement? If it is, either no one really knows the problem or it is known but won't be touched with a 100ft pole since doing so will lead down the rabbit hole of disillusionment.
- watwut 6y agoI dont understand what are you trying to say here.
- vagrantJin 6y agoThe article, methodology and data are dubious.
- heterodoxxed 6y ago| Fiction drives home unrealistic standards or extremes. Strongly depends on the fiction. 500 Days of Summer or Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, for instance.
- sjg007 6y agoThese movies require you to use meta-cognition to reflect on why the main characters are doing what they're doing. They are a psychological antidote to the the hero's quest of unrequited love. If anything propagates the fiction of unrealistic standards it would be Disney movies.
- jeandejean 6y ago> intellectual knowledge does not translate into behavior Wow I'd love to see some links supporting that, it feels hard to believe!
- boomboomsubban 6y agoBasically every gambler is an excellent example of that principle, though I have also not seen the research.
- _Microft 6y agoThis might be a counter-example: the American Physical Society held a spring meeting in a casino in 1986 and it turned out to be the worst week that the casino had until then. Why? The physicists just did not play. http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2015/09/one-winning-move.html http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2015/09/one-winning-mo...
- boomboomsubban 6y agoThey would also have ample experience with chance that could overrule their intellectual knowledge.
- wombatmobile 6y agoTreatment for problem gamblers uses mathematics to prove they cannot beat system https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-30/new-approach-to-treating-problem-gamblers-uses-mathematics/5928796?nw=0 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-30/new-approach-to-treat...
- imtringued 6y agoOkay now that we got the intellectual argument out of the way. Let's talk about the actual experience of gamblers: You're not playing against the house. You're playing against the other gamblers. This is highly prominent in Poker where you try to beat other players. Some gamblers told me about their weird theories about which machine will give them the fattest payouts because they analyzed which machines have been used the most and how to minimize the opportunity cost of their current wager by taking advantage of free services provided by the casino. They clearly aren't in it to stick it to the house. They are trying to outcompete other gamblers with their strategies even with a slot machine.