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I despise the idea of differentiating between immigrants and natives. All people are equal. We all should be measured by equal terms. Quite often there are art

I despise the idea of differentiating between immigrants and natives. All people are equal. We all should be measured by equal terms. Quite often there are articles painting immigrants as innately good, which - to me - is the same racism as painting immigrants as bad.

dbatten 6y ago
Surely "all people are equal" does not mean "we should never do sociological research on people" or "any sociological research that finds statistical differences in how different groups of people behave is necessarily wrong and evil."
jacob2484 6y ago
If I immigrate to Switzerland or Singapore, I should not have all the rights that the citizens have, such as right to vote or social programs which would stress their system. Not until enough time passes and I qualify to be a citizen. Otherwise would be unfair to the natives.
- foogazi 6y ago
  > Otherwise would be unfair to the natives. Says who ? These arbitrary rules were made up by someone, and are always subject to change. Life’s not fair
tw04 6y ago
>I despise the idea of differentiating between immigrants and natives. All people are equal. You seem to be confusing the words equal and same. Nothing in the article says immigrants aren't equal, it says their family dynamics are DIFFERENT. With statistics to back it up. It's no different than me saying that statistically: the average black family from alabama living in zip code 35033 consumes a different variety of food than the average hispanic family from south dakota living in zip code 57620. Nothing about that says they aren't EQUAL, but they are absolutely DIFFERENT. Calling that "racism" is a pretty blatant abuse of the term.
foogazi 6y ago
Immigrant here - I don’t see ANY difference between myself, Americans, Indians, Russians or Chinese I have met while working here - at the end of the day we are all people
ahupp 6y ago
Your comment is written as if immigrants are a homogeneous group, all identical to each other. That seems like a far more pernicious view than suggesting that they might differ (in positive ways, no less!) from natives.
andreygrehov 6y ago
I'm an immigrant. Culturally, we are all different.

dbatten 6y ago

Surely "all people are equal" does not mean "we should never do sociological research on people" or "any sociological research that finds statistical differences in how different groups of people behave is necessarily wrong and evil."

jacob2484 6y ago

If I immigrate to Switzerland or Singapore, I should not have all the rights that the citizens have, such as right to vote or social programs which would stress their system. Not until enough time passes and I qualify to be a citizen. Otherwise would be unfair to the natives.

foogazi 6y ago
> Otherwise would be unfair to the natives. Says who ? These arbitrary rules were made up by someone, and are always subject to change. Life’s not fair

tw04 6y ago

>I despise the idea of differentiating between immigrants and natives. All people are equal. You seem to be confusing the words equal and same. Nothing in the article says immigrants aren't equal, it says their family dynamics are DIFFERENT. With statistics to back it up. It's no different than me saying that statistically: the average black family from alabama living in zip code 35033 consumes a different variety of food than the average hispanic family from south dakota living in zip code 57620. Nothing about that says they aren't EQUAL, but they are absolutely DIFFERENT. Calling that "racism" is a pretty blatant abuse of the term.

foogazi 6y ago

Immigrant here - I don’t see ANY difference between myself, Americans, Indians, Russians or Chinese I have met while working here - at the end of the day we are all people

ahupp 6y ago

Your comment is written as if immigrants are a homogeneous group, all identical to each other. That seems like a far more pernicious view than suggesting that they might differ (in positive ways, no less!) from natives.

andreygrehov 6y ago

I'm an immigrant. Culturally, we are all different.