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"Cliqz sounds too much like an off-brand, gutter ad seller to ever have credibility, and I say that as someone who was fairly impressed with their tech." That'

"Cliqz sounds too much like an off-brand, gutter ad seller to ever have credibility, and I say that as someone who was fairly impressed with their tech." That's because they were. The parent company was in adtech and they even had another subsidiary that was hawking browser toolbars. Frankly though, the Brave brand has no better reputation with me however, so it still means seeing whatever promise the tech might've had consigned to the same headspace as the rest of the scamweb.

api 6y ago
> hawking browser toolbars. Ahh yes, the lowest circle of adtech hell. I didn't know that kind of annoyware was even still a thing.
- zenexer 6y ago
  It’s evolved into an even worse beast: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/is-your-browser-extension-a-botnet-backdoor/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/is-your-browser-extensio...
caslon 6y ago
The Brave brand is nearly worthless. I'm not sure how to feel about that. They're releasing their new search engine as free software, which is nice, but their long history of messing even the simplest of things up still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I wonder if they'll ever work themselves out of the "le shill lion" moniker. Probably not. Though with this new search engine attempt, they might finally give up on cryptocurrency, which would be nice.
- carbotaniuman 6y ago
  Brave's cryptocurrency is the only reason millions of people use it.
  - ac29 6y ago
    Perhaps, but for many others a business model of "___, but with crypto!" is a huge turn off.
themolecularman 6y ago
> Frankly though, the Brave brand has no better reputation with me however, so it still means seeing whatever promise the tech might've had consigned to the same headspace as the rest of the scamweb. Can I ask why? I've been de-googling my life and recently switched from Chrome to Brave.
- terhechte 6y ago
  I think it is because they're also behind BAT which is a cryptocurrency.

api 6y ago

> hawking browser toolbars. Ahh yes, the lowest circle of adtech hell. I didn't know that kind of annoyware was even still a thing.

zenexer 6y ago
It’s evolved into an even worse beast: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/is-your-browser-extension-a-botnet-backdoor/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/is-your-browser-extensio...

caslon 6y ago

The Brave brand is nearly worthless. I'm not sure how to feel about that. They're releasing their new search engine as free software, which is nice, but their long history of messing even the simplest of things up still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I wonder if they'll ever work themselves out of the "le shill lion" moniker. Probably not. Though with this new search engine attempt, they might finally give up on cryptocurrency, which would be nice.

carbotaniuman 6y ago
Brave's cryptocurrency is the only reason millions of people use it.
- ac29 6y ago
  Perhaps, but for many others a business model of "___, but with crypto!" is a huge turn off.

themolecularman 6y ago

> Frankly though, the Brave brand has no better reputation with me however, so it still means seeing whatever promise the tech might've had consigned to the same headspace as the rest of the scamweb. Can I ask why? I've been de-googling my life and recently switched from Chrome to Brave.

terhechte 6y ago
I think it is because they're also behind BAT which is a cryptocurrency.