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You don’t find it at all suspicious that the CCP blocked site visits to the Wuhan lab for an entire year? Or that they censored domestic research on the origins

You don’t find it at all suspicious that the CCP blocked site visits to the Wuhan lab for an entire year? Or that they censored domestic research on the origins of the virus early last year (https://www.newsweek.com/china-censoring-research-covid-19-origins-deleted-page-wuhan-university-website-suggests-1497467 https://www.newsweek.com/china-censoring-research-covid-19-o...)? Or that they deleted studies from this lab relating to bats and coronaviruses (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13701168/covid-cover-up-china-wuhan-studies-batwoman-virologist/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13701168/covid-cover-up-china-...)? As for the WHO’s findings - from https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00375-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00375-7: > Dwyer [member of the WHO team visiting Wuhan in 2021] says that the team didn’t see anything during its visits to suggest a lab accident. “Now, whether we were shown everything? You can never know. The group wasn’t designed to go and do a forensic examination of lab practice.” Clearly China is not helping their case. And the international community, including the WHO, has not been holding them accountable on the possibility of a lab leak.

martin_a 6y ago
> Clearly China is not helping their case [...] Do you really think this would be in any way different for any western country? Especially given that those labs might not only be doing "influenza research" but research for biological weapons, too.
- throwawaysea 6y ago
  You’re changing the topic. We aren’t talking about western countries. We’re talking about China’s ruling government, the CCP. And what we saw is that they took virtually every possible action to prevent legitimate investigations by suppressing information and tampering with evidence. The only reasonable motivation to do so is to hide origins that lays blame at their feet - such as a lab leak.
  - martin_a 6y ago
    I'm not changing the topic, I'm just saying that this isn't something only China would do. I would expect the exactly same behaviour from any Western country.
    - FriendlyNormie 6y ago
      I’d love to watch someone cut your head off with a chainsaw you miserable little faggot. Die.
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    - marcosdumay 6y ago
      A practice known as "wataboutism", but in your case it's much worse, because yes, things would go very differently in a democratic country.
- esja 6y ago
  It's ridiculous to believe this would have played out the same way if the lab was based in Denmark. Or Sweden, New Zealand, Switzerland, or any number of other Western countries. They would have welcomed the inspection and it would have happened very close to the beginning of the outbreak.
DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
You're quoting trashy publications like The Sun and Newsweek, but discounting a team of experts assembled by the WHO.

martin_a 6y ago

> Clearly China is not helping their case [...] Do you really think this would be in any way different for any western country? Especially given that those labs might not only be doing "influenza research" but research for biological weapons, too.

throwawaysea 6y ago
You’re changing the topic. We aren’t talking about western countries. We’re talking about China’s ruling government, the CCP. And what we saw is that they took virtually every possible action to prevent legitimate investigations by suppressing information and tampering with evidence. The only reasonable motivation to do so is to hide origins that lays blame at their feet - such as a lab leak.
- martin_a 6y ago
  I'm not changing the topic, I'm just saying that this isn't something only China would do. I would expect the exactly same behaviour from any Western country.
  - FriendlyNormie 6y ago
    I’d love to watch someone cut your head off with a chainsaw you miserable little faggot. Die.
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  - marcosdumay 6y ago
    A practice known as "wataboutism", but in your case it's much worse, because yes, things would go very differently in a democratic country.
esja 6y ago
It's ridiculous to believe this would have played out the same way if the lab was based in Denmark. Or Sweden, New Zealand, Switzerland, or any number of other Western countries. They would have welcomed the inspection and it would have happened very close to the beginning of the outbreak.

DiogenesKynikos 6y ago

You're quoting trashy publications like The Sun and Newsweek, but discounting a team of experts assembled by the WHO.