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I think the inward-lookingness of cancellation is key here. Regarding attempts at totality, in the past, if you were cancelled, it was because you were group A

I think the inward-lookingness of cancellation is key here. Regarding attempts at totality, in the past, if you were cancelled, it was because you were group A masquerading in a group B world, and group B found out and kicked you out of B-world. But, importantly, Group B couldn't cancel you in the eyes of Group A, only in their own eyes. So if you were found out, your direct life got cancelled but there was frequently another segment of society welcoming you with open arms. But now with the inward-lookingness of cancellation, you have people from group B who are cancelled by group B, and have no one to fall back on. An example would be a teacher arguing for the support of gay marriage getting cancelled by a catholic school they work for. That person, in the past, could pick up their bags and move in with the liberals next door. Yes, they lost their job, and maybe half of their associates, but they still have the other half who would be more than welcoming of them for the plight they've been through. But what happens when a group cancels their own? For example, the Peru N-word journo. By all appearances, he is a liberal-minded person, who worked for a liberal-minded newspaper, in one of the most liberal-minded cities in the nation. But now he got cancelled by his colleagues. What is he supposed to do - go hang out with white supremacists? Neither side would find that appealing. So instead he has to...not partake in society at all?

mantap 6y ago
The world isn't split into liberals and the far-right. It's split into tolerant people and intolerant people. Some people wear a thin veneer of tolerance to cover their intolerance. These are the people doing the canceling. These are the people you don't want to associate with anyway. But there's still plenty of tolerant people around in society.
- krageon 6y ago
  > But there's still plenty of tolerant people around in society. I would argue people that don't really care are in fact the majority.
robin21 6y ago
> What is he supposed to do - go hang out with white supremacists? Do you imply that the only groups in society are liberals and white-supremacists? This is the problem liberals have...they have to get onboard with all the progressive stuff because they don't realize that everyone else is not a white supremacist as they are told by the NYT. A lot of Trump support came from former Democrats who realized that they are no longer onboard with the ideals of the modern Democrat party pandering to the Progressives. These people didn't want a traditional religiously crusading Republican - they wanted opposition to identity politics and globalism. There are good people in the center, and this Peru guy will be fine - but he should have realized a long time ago the NYT is not for people like him.

mantap 6y ago

The world isn't split into liberals and the far-right. It's split into tolerant people and intolerant people. Some people wear a thin veneer of tolerance to cover their intolerance. These are the people doing the canceling. These are the people you don't want to associate with anyway. But there's still plenty of tolerant people around in society.

krageon 6y ago
> But there's still plenty of tolerant people around in society. I would argue people that don't really care are in fact the majority.

robin21 6y ago

> What is he supposed to do - go hang out with white supremacists? Do you imply that the only groups in society are liberals and white-supremacists? This is the problem liberals have...they have to get onboard with all the progressive stuff because they don't realize that everyone else is not a white supremacist as they are told by the NYT. A lot of Trump support came from former Democrats who realized that they are no longer onboard with the ideals of the modern Democrat party pandering to the Progressives. These people didn't want a traditional religiously crusading Republican - they wanted opposition to identity politics and globalism. There are good people in the center, and this Peru guy will be fine - but he should have realized a long time ago the NYT is not for people like him.