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As a European I encounter a lot dark patterns to circumvent privacy laws. Some just ignore your choice and track you. Some don't give you a reject option. Some
by ezzato 6y ago
As a European I encounter a lot dark patterns to circumvent privacy laws.
Some just ignore your choice and track you.
Some don't give you a reject option.
Some make it really really annoying (or slow) to reject.
Do you think it's possible to politely ask them on twitter to change? Maybe as a group?
- aequitas 6y ago> Some make it really really annoying (or slow) to reject. Some even make it slow to accept, or reload to a homepage after submitting, instead of back to the original page. It just doesn't make any sense to me. But apparently people just accept it as the way the internet is nowadays.
- atleta 6y agoReload probably means that they have implemented it fully on the server side. So the cookie (about the cookies) gets set through the server, or worse, they initially send down the cookies and then clear them with the reload. If you are talking about this and not malicious reloads that make giving a consent harder. (I haven't seen that latter and the former doesn't bother me.)
- SilasX 6y agoI thought there was an official governmental point of contact that handled such complaints, and had teeth?
- gregoriol 6y agoIn France there is CNIL (https://www.cnil.fr/ https://www.cnil.fr/) and they seem to try to follow-up on reports, at least for french located companies/websites I think.
- ezzato 6y agoI filled 2 years ago a few complaints. It took over 1 year for an answer. Basically nothing happened. The Data Protection Authority are underfunded and understaffed. They try the best with their resources.
- amelius 6y agoCan't we fund these authorities with the fines they generate? Not the best way, I know, but better than nothing.
- rapind 6y agoThat would create a perverse incentive inevitably leading to corruption.
- statstutor 6y agoIt creates an incentive (to identify entities breaking the law), but I don't see how this is perverse. It's the desired result.
- Volundr 6y agoThe same reason funding police departments on ticket revenues is bad. It incentives overzealous enforcement, where it's not so much about preventing people from breaking the law, but instead figuring out what you can pin on them.
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- statstutor 6y agoI would say this is quite a different situation: Police enforcement includes the police powers of arrest and detention. GDPR enforcement is (I believe) limited to a fine which can be appealed to a court. If the enforcement department turns out to be wasting court time, then there are likely to be significantly negative consequences for that department (at least, more than for the police in the US). I agree that fine collection is not an ideal way of funding a department, but not all incentives are perverse just because they exist - incentives are allowed to align.
- swiley 6y agoMaybe don't use services that are abusing you? There are way too many people that tolerate absolutely pathological software vendors for trivial reasons. Don't be part of the problem.