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How is it that Pornhub comes under scrutiny for under-age pornography by 'unverified' accounts, but Reddit and other sites don't have real counter-measures? Re

How is it that Pornhub comes under scrutiny for under-age pornography by 'unverified' accounts, but Reddit and other sites don't have real counter-measures? Remember the Reddit 'Jailbait' and 'Creepshots' scandals? Those should have been big wake up calls for them to wise up and crack down on the rest of the site, as they're obvious avenues for under-age abuse.

judge2020 6y ago
Those are 2011 and 2012 events - all of the big IRL "teen" subs (which are mostly moderated by the reddit super mods[0] which are rumored to now be paid mods) screen posters for identity and age verification. The only problem they still have is fictional characters that appear under 18 - which is not universally illegal in the U.S.[1] so reddit admins have been mostly complacent on deciding if they're OK with them on the site. 0: https://redd.it/8g5ngn https://redd.it/8g5ngn (not nsfw) 1: https://redd.it/b5b9lz https://redd.it/b5b9lz (nsfw descriptions/vulgar)
- EE84M3i 6y ago
  What? Where on reddit do you need to meet anything like 2257 requirements to post pictures of yourself?
  - judge2020 6y ago
    Try posting a random picture you got from Google Images on RealGirls and see how long it takes to get removed and a message from the moderators asking you to verify your identity.
    - drdeca 6y ago
      couldn't they do a reverse image search, see that it is already online, and therefore suspect that it was not posted by the person it depicts, and therefore require the verification? I don't see how "posting a picture you got from google images results in them asking you to confirm that you are the one in the picture" indicates that they generally require verification before you can post a picture of yourself. I mean, based on the name, I assume that in my case that subreddit wouldn't be interested in a picture of me, because I'm male (and, I also wouldn't want them to have it either), but still.
    - smaryjerry 6y ago
      Try it on almost any smaller subreddit though.
    - EE84M3i 6y ago
      My understanding was they will ask you to verify yourself (crumple up a piece of paper with a code, etc), but not your age.
ThrustVectoring 6y ago
The scrutiny is less about the actual facts on the ground and more about who the editorial staff at the NYT decides should get some time in the spotlight.
- annexrichmond 6y ago
  Yeah I always found it funny that Tumblr faced so much heat from Apple, etc for its (underage) porn problem[1] yet Reddit and Twitter are probably even larger harvesters of it [1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-child-pornography-removed-from-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...
  - vxNsr 6y ago
    And likely the staff at theverge large consumers of it, based on the type of articles they spend so much time publishing. Kinda like that perv who puts his hand over his face but peeks through his fingers.
hertzrat 6y ago
Is the idea to make people log in to see adult material? I’m sure those logs and targeted ads will never embarass anybody
- Zak 6y ago
  I noticed the new-UI version of the site wanting me to either log in or use an app to view /r/scotch (not marked NSFW, but about alcohol). I've noticed a number of sites require a login for content some people might find objectionable rather than just a click-through warning. I can think of a few reasons why that might be the case, but I'd be interested in a definitive answer about why that is from someone who has been involved with that kind of decision.
- yellowapple 6y ago
  If it really matters, there ain't much stopping you from creating an account specifically for porn consumption, nor is there much stopping you from setting up a secondary browser profile to keep that isolated from any other ad-relevant data (Firefox makes this dead simple with Containers, but any OS worth its salt these days has support for multiple logins and the ability to switch users without logging out).
worker767424 6y ago
Those were at least legally questionable. Remember thefappening? They defended what was at least copyright infringement as free speech. It turned out some of the girls were underage when the pics were taken, so they facilitated distribution of CP.

judge2020 6y ago

Those are 2011 and 2012 events - all of the big IRL "teen" subs (which are mostly moderated by the reddit super mods[0] which are rumored to now be paid mods) screen posters for identity and age verification. The only problem they still have is fictional characters that appear under 18 - which is not universally illegal in the U.S.[1] so reddit admins have been mostly complacent on deciding if they're OK with them on the site. 0: https://redd.it/8g5ngn https://redd.it/8g5ngn (not nsfw) 1: https://redd.it/b5b9lz https://redd.it/b5b9lz (nsfw descriptions/vulgar)

EE84M3i 6y ago
What? Where on reddit do you need to meet anything like 2257 requirements to post pictures of yourself?
- judge2020 6y ago
  Try posting a random picture you got from Google Images on RealGirls and see how long it takes to get removed and a message from the moderators asking you to verify your identity.
  - drdeca 6y ago
    couldn't they do a reverse image search, see that it is already online, and therefore suspect that it was not posted by the person it depicts, and therefore require the verification? I don't see how "posting a picture you got from google images results in them asking you to confirm that you are the one in the picture" indicates that they generally require verification before you can post a picture of yourself. I mean, based on the name, I assume that in my case that subreddit wouldn't be interested in a picture of me, because I'm male (and, I also wouldn't want them to have it either), but still.
  - smaryjerry 6y ago
    Try it on almost any smaller subreddit though.
  - EE84M3i 6y ago
    My understanding was they will ask you to verify yourself (crumple up a piece of paper with a code, etc), but not your age.

ThrustVectoring 6y ago

The scrutiny is less about the actual facts on the ground and more about who the editorial staff at the NYT decides should get some time in the spotlight.

annexrichmond 6y ago
Yeah I always found it funny that Tumblr faced so much heat from Apple, etc for its (underage) porn problem[1] yet Reddit and Twitter are probably even larger harvesters of it [1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-child-pornography-removed-from-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...
- vxNsr 6y ago
  And likely the staff at theverge large consumers of it, based on the type of articles they spend so much time publishing. Kinda like that perv who puts his hand over his face but peeks through his fingers.

hertzrat 6y ago

Is the idea to make people log in to see adult material? I’m sure those logs and targeted ads will never embarass anybody

Zak 6y ago
I noticed the new-UI version of the site wanting me to either log in or use an app to view /r/scotch (not marked NSFW, but about alcohol). I've noticed a number of sites require a login for content some people might find objectionable rather than just a click-through warning. I can think of a few reasons why that might be the case, but I'd be interested in a definitive answer about why that is from someone who has been involved with that kind of decision.
yellowapple 6y ago
If it really matters, there ain't much stopping you from creating an account specifically for porn consumption, nor is there much stopping you from setting up a secondary browser profile to keep that isolated from any other ad-relevant data (Firefox makes this dead simple with Containers, but any OS worth its salt these days has support for multiple logins and the ability to switch users without logging out).

worker767424 6y ago

Those were at least legally questionable. Remember thefappening? They defended what was at least copyright infringement as free speech. It turned out some of the girls were underage when the pics were taken, so they facilitated distribution of CP.