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Facebook Container – Mozilla

47 points by adidar83 6y ago

ape4 6y ago
The only addon I use
- fsflover 6y ago
  Facebook is not the only evil site on the Internet. I recommend PrivacyBadger in addition to defend from many other trackers.
  - LilyTheThief 6y ago
    uBlock Origin is also a must-have.
dna_polymerase 6y ago
Personally, I prefer just blocking all Facebook assets on DNS level. Don't forget, they go to war against Apple because Apple wants to force user consent on their tracking activities. They should be ousted from everyone's network.
- Kye 6y ago
  Not everyone has the luxury of going nuclear with it. Containment works for people whose governments are too cheap for a blog.
  - blowski 6y ago
    Exactly. My son's school has been using Facebook for most communications. I discussed it with their IT person - they said it was mostly a trade-off between security, privacy, usability, and cost. Most parents didn't care much about privacy, so Facebook won. It's frustrating for those of us that do care about privacy, but I can see why it's such a difficult decision.
- IgorPartola 6y ago
  FB Marketplace is legitimately more useful than any other classifieds system available or in the US. Otherwise I would do the same.
- milofeynman 6y ago
  That's a short term solution with DoH becoming more widespread... I'm curious how we're going to block DoH in the future since it can be packed into any iot device
maztaim 6y ago
I prefer https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account....
- tunnuz 6y ago
  Same, been using for about a year and love them.
- bko 6y ago
  I've been using privacy badger [0] and ublock. Is this containarization still something I need to worry about? [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-badger17/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-badge...
  - ruined 6y ago
    yes. containerization allows you to segregate your browsing sessions even when necessary page functionality includes code/assets from entities that would use that inclusion to track. think of it as minimizing your surface area. temporary containers in particular are like a fresh session in every tab. i combine containers with noscript, ublock, and decentraleyes.
- evad3r 6y ago
  You can literally use the two hand in hand. You don't have to use one or the other.
frouge 6y ago
Is it still useful with the new total cookie siloing?
- OscarCunningham 6y ago
  I asked the same question here and got some responses, mostly people using containers for other purposes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26237629 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26237629
hertzrat 6y ago
Since you can’t use addons with Firefox mobile, how is the browser compared to brave or safari for privacy and ad blocking?
- milofeynman 6y ago
  Firefox nightly has a limited addon system. Ublock for example works. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...
  - ruined 6y ago
    it's in stable now too. noscript is a lifesaver on low-end phones.
- JohnTHaller 6y ago
  Firefox on Android works with uBlock, Ghostery, Privacy Badger, NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere, etc. On iOS, you're stuck with Safari on at least some level anyway, so may as well stick with Safari.
  - bilkow 6y ago
    This, and AFAIK they're still implementing the rest of the API so that all add-ons will be supported (on Android).
- dragosmocrii 6y ago
  For mobile, I recommend Blokada. I recommend using the v4 due to being more stable and resource efficient.
scrose 6y ago
I’ve always used Ublock and Pihole with a DNS blocklist set for any Facebook domain, but now I’m wondering if there is anything I might not be catching that this would?
gbrown_ 6y ago
This has been posted a few times before, some of the more active previous discussions. 4 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24849452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24849452 ~3 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16862925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16862925
- deleted 6y ago
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47 points by adidar83 6y ago

ape4 6y ago

The only addon I use

fsflover 6y ago
Facebook is not the only evil site on the Internet. I recommend PrivacyBadger in addition to defend from many other trackers.
- LilyTheThief 6y ago
  uBlock Origin is also a must-have.

dna_polymerase 6y ago

Personally, I prefer just blocking all Facebook assets on DNS level. Don't forget, they go to war against Apple because Apple wants to force user consent on their tracking activities. They should be ousted from everyone's network.

Kye 6y ago
Not everyone has the luxury of going nuclear with it. Containment works for people whose governments are too cheap for a blog.
- blowski 6y ago
  Exactly. My son's school has been using Facebook for most communications. I discussed it with their IT person - they said it was mostly a trade-off between security, privacy, usability, and cost. Most parents didn't care much about privacy, so Facebook won. It's frustrating for those of us that do care about privacy, but I can see why it's such a difficult decision.
IgorPartola 6y ago
FB Marketplace is legitimately more useful than any other classifieds system available or in the US. Otherwise I would do the same.
milofeynman 6y ago
That's a short term solution with DoH becoming more widespread... I'm curious how we're going to block DoH in the future since it can be packed into any iot device

maztaim 6y ago

I prefer https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account....

tunnuz 6y ago
Same, been using for about a year and love them.
bko 6y ago
I've been using privacy badger [0] and ublock. Is this containarization still something I need to worry about? [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-badger17/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-badge...
- ruined 6y ago
  yes. containerization allows you to segregate your browsing sessions even when necessary page functionality includes code/assets from entities that would use that inclusion to track. think of it as minimizing your surface area. temporary containers in particular are like a fresh session in every tab. i combine containers with noscript, ublock, and decentraleyes.
evad3r 6y ago
You can literally use the two hand in hand. You don't have to use one or the other.

frouge 6y ago

Is it still useful with the new total cookie siloing?

OscarCunningham 6y ago
I asked the same question here and got some responses, mostly people using containers for other purposes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26237629 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26237629

hertzrat 6y ago

Since you can’t use addons with Firefox mobile, how is the browser compared to brave or safari for privacy and ad blocking?

milofeynman 6y ago
Firefox nightly has a limited addon system. Ublock for example works. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...
- ruined 6y ago
  it's in stable now too. noscript is a lifesaver on low-end phones.
JohnTHaller 6y ago
Firefox on Android works with uBlock, Ghostery, Privacy Badger, NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere, etc. On iOS, you're stuck with Safari on at least some level anyway, so may as well stick with Safari.
- bilkow 6y ago
  This, and AFAIK they're still implementing the rest of the API so that all add-ons will be supported (on Android).
dragosmocrii 6y ago
For mobile, I recommend Blokada. I recommend using the v4 due to being more stable and resource efficient.

scrose 6y ago

I’ve always used Ublock and Pihole with a DNS blocklist set for any Facebook domain, but now I’m wondering if there is anything I might not be catching that this would?

gbrown_ 6y ago

This has been posted a few times before, some of the more active previous discussions. 4 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24849452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24849452 ~3 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16862925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16862925

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