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Oh my gosh, you and me both. I'm so tired of the lame excuse that it's a "secure messaging platform". If the mindset were truly that having a copy of the mess
by tw04 6y ago
Oh my gosh, you and me both. I'm so tired of the lame excuse that it's a "secure messaging platform". If the mindset were truly that having a copy of the message was insecure, why wouldn't they just set every chat to expire? Because it turns out people want a balance between security and functionality.
IOS has had filesystem access for going on 2 years now, there's literally no excuse beyond laziness for not letting us backup and restore the signal messages. I don't even care if it gets dumped into an insecure format if that's the only way it works. I'm far more concerned with someone intercepting my messages in-flight than any other vector. If someone has a backdoor on the phone itself, one signal backup is the least of my worries. Ignoring the fact that backup would be optional.
Incorporate SMS (with a red background or something obvious that the chat is insecure), incorporate backup, and just fully embrace being a messaging app. If they do that they'll make the world universally more secure because it will increase adoption 100 fold. I'll have a lot easier time convincing my dad to use signal if I don't have to try to walk him through "well when you're texting grandma, use this app, and when you're texting me, use this app".
- vageli 6y ago> Incorporate SMS (with a red background or something obvious that the chat is insecure), incorporate backup, and just fully embrace being a messaging app. If they do that they'll make the world universally more secure because it will increase adoption 100 fold. I'll have a lot easier time convincing my dad to use signal if I don't have to try to walk him through "well when you're texting grandma, use this app, and when you're texting me, use this app". You can already use SMS from within the Signal app on mobile. On desktop it makes sense that there is no SMS feature, unless you want to use the desktop client to send SMS from your phone (like Android messaging), or you want Signal to operate an SMS gateway?
- omnimus 6y agoSignal already does SMS on Android but on iOS thats forbidden so you can't replace SMS app. Quite convenient for Apple because same SMS app by default supports their imessages :))
- tw04 6y agoUnfortunately you can't send SMS from Signal in the iOS version of the app. And yes, I also want to be able to send an SMS from my desktop through my phone (like android messaging or imessage). https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Can-I-send-SMS-MMS-with-Signal- https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Ca... Sure, iOS doesn't allow you to intercept SMS but others have already figured out how to work around this by assigning a virtual phone number.
- pseudalopex 6y agoIt isn't laziness. They go out of their way to prevent it.