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I got burned by this. I take 4x5 film photos and stored my library in Google Photos as 80 megapixel TIFF scans. One day, they told me I was out of storage, an
by jrockway 6y ago
I got burned by this. I take 4x5 film photos and stored my library in Google Photos as 80 megapixel TIFF scans. One day, they told me I was out of storage, and that all the files were converted to phone-quality jpegs. They look awful.
I got into this situation because I had a few terabytes of free storage that I accumulated while working at Google; there was some deal like "fill out this survey and we'll give your personal account unlimited free storage forever"... but they altered the deal and that storage went away.
I use iCloud now.
- prox 6y agoThat’s bad. Using any Google product will be the same experience, simply because you are not the client, advertisers are. I am sure there are fine people working on the ship called Google, but I don’t like where it is heading.
- dontblink 6y agoAdvertisers have nothing to do with a paid product. GSuite (or whatever it is called now) can be paid for. Just an fyi as you seem to be misinformed.
- prox 6y agoThat really doesn’t change the outcome of what kind of company Google is, on the whole, and where they get their value extraction from. Gsuite is only 5% of their revenue. Photos is also not part of Gsuite afaik.
- ddalex 6y agoWell they are trying to move it from advertising based to subscription based :)
- ahepp 6y agoI paid for GSuite, it sucked. Between GSuite and Fi, it was a constant battle of trying to get Google's own services to work with each other. I couldn't use voice assistant to set a reminder on my phone... I wish I had just gone with Apple.
- mountainb 6y agoThey don't treat advertisers well either, so you know.
- anshumankmr 6y agoHow so? As far as I can see, they bend over backwards to help them, especially on YouTube by demonetizing stuff using contentID.
- noAnswer 6y ago> I use iCloud now. As long as you don't use it to store music... Basically same story, different file type: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250315803 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250315803
- nitrogen 6y agoI guess that's one solution to piracy and competition...
- kccqzy 6y agoThat's different on so many levels. The photos you take are unique. The music you bought are not. They are produced by someone else. I personally have no qualms when Apple replaced my ripped MP3s with a DRM-free version from the iTunes Store.
- echelon 6y agoApple shouldn't be looking at what you're storing and replacing it with something different. Nor should Google. We shouldn't tolerate this business from any megacorp.
- kccqzy 6y agoThey surely can. iTunes Match is not marketed as a music backup service. Its raison d'être is to match your own music to music available in the iTunes Store. It's in the name.
- nitrogen 6y agoThe comments in that discussion said that iTunes Match was deleting songs and audio recordings, even those that it didn't match.
- larusso 6y agoJust too bad when it matches the wrong version of an album or song. Happened to me and I already deleted my original mp3. So you need to rip the CD again. But I think it makes sense to match content and only keep the best version on the servers.
- federona 6y agoIf you use terabytes of storage on consumer oriented free or nearly free services you are going to get burned sooner or later. Switch to b2 or s3. Your data will be there for a much longer time. b2 costs $5/terabyte. If you don't access this stuff, it's probably at most $10 - $20/mo.
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- angrais 6y agoSorry if this is a stupid question, but if you don't access data often, why not just buy an external HDD of say 10TB or such? Yeah, it's possible that data may fail, but is quite unlikely particular if you're not using it often.
- federona 6y agoRemote storage, redundancy, and portability. At $5/mo/tb. you can still access any of it anytime you want, you just pay for what you actually download.
- gruez 6y agoshucked hard drives go for around $15/TB on sale. Buy three for redundancy and it's $45/TB. The break-even point for that setup would be 9 months.
- eru 6y agoWell, plus a lot of hassle.
- dwohnitmok 6y agoYou're also paying for spatial distance and independence. Redundant backups in the same location can all fail together. See https://youtu.be/OAI8S2houW4?t=285 https://youtu.be/OAI8S2houW4?t=285 for one amusing case.
- mrfusion 6y agoHow to do it on iCloud? Like a backup?
- lathiat 6y agoiCloud Photo Library is similar but no compression hijinx - it's always original quality in the cloud and you can choose to store only "high quality" locally on your device to save device space (hilariously, the opposite of Google). You pay for the storage (but you can't get more than 2TB for love nor money).
- duquedeturing 6y agoNow you can, up to 4TB: “ With Apple One, you can choose a subscription plan that includes 50GB, 200GB, or 2TB of iCloud storage. If you need more iCloud storage, you can buy more for a total of up to 4TB. ” https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201318 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201318
- shortandsweet 6y agoHmmm no android option. But there is a pc option?
- ascagnel_ 6y agoThere's an iCloud Windows client. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283
- katbyte 6y agoWell that’s annoying, I don’t want to pay for all the other services I never use for 4tb
- ahepp 6y ago>it's always original quality in the cloud and you can choose to store only "high quality" locally on your device to save device space This is the sort of thing that really makes me regret getting a pixel I wish I realized how anti-ergonomic Google's services were before I experienced it first hand.
- plantain 6y ago>I got into this situation because I had a few terabytes of free storage that I accumulated while working at Google; there was some deal like "fill out this survey and we'll give your personal account unlimited free storage forever"... but they altered the deal and that storage went away. That deal was always time limited, and then was periodically extended for years and years until one day it wasn't. It was clearly never 'sold' as <i>forever</i> though.
- mcguire 6y agoJust like all of Google's other products?
- iscrewyou 6y agoI still miss google reader and Picasa. I don’t think I will ever get over those two losses.
- deepsun 6y agoAny good replacements? I mean, if people really miss Picasa (and I personally know several) -- it's worthwhile to reimplement it and make money.
- bryanrasmussen 6y ago>it's worthwhile to reimplement it and make money. no it's not, because if you do (and look to be getting significant growth) Google will just start it up again and drive you out of business, run it for a year or two afterwards for free and then kill it.
- astrange 6y agoRSS readers existed before Google Reader and they still exist after it. https://netnewswire.com https://netnewswire.com https://feedly.com https://feedly.com
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- junkrat002 6y ago>but they altered the deal Pray they don't alter it further.
- anshumankmr 6y agoThis deal is getting worse all the time.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 6y agoI always think of that sketch too. Robot chicken ruined a ton of star wars bits for me.
- TheHypnotist 6y agoIsn't iCloud just mirroring? If you delete it off your device, you lose it on your iCloud too.
- staplers 6y agoThey've recently changed it on macOS to allow you to free the hard drive space (file is in the cloud) but the metadata (file name) remains indexed on your computer.
- vinay_ys 6y agoNope. iCloud Drive is a virtual folder on your device. When you drop a file into this drive, it will start "Uploading". Once it has uploaded, you will see "Remove Download" option which removes the local copy but keeps the copy in the cloud. If you click on such a file whose local copy is not present, it will "Download Now" (you can select and option-click and find this option as well).
- jjav 6y agoI hope you had local copies! All cloud storage should be treated as ephemeral (some more than others, particularly google). It will change terms or go away at some point. Only local storage owned by you is actually, well, owned by you. If it is something that matters, keep it locally.
- hetspookjee 6y agoLocal storage doesn't mean a lot these days anymore. Good luck with your DRM'd products when the validating server goes offline.
- jjav 6y agoThat is something else to be aware of, you're right. I only buy non-DRM content. Ideally, DVDs or CDs I'll rip myself (then the physical media is a second layer of backup). Most of my storage volume is my own photography though. RAW files take a lot of space.
- i_am_proteus 6y agoLocal copies of 4x5 film don't have any DRM.
- MattPalmer1086 6y agoLocal copies ftw for sure, and it's not just free or cheap cloud providers you have to worry about Following hard disk failure last week, I attempted to recover only about 1Gb of data from SpiderOak. Without going in to all the roadblocks, bugs and strange design decisions that exist when recovering data from them, I'm yet to recover anything worth having. Been a customer for over 8 years. I guess the old maxim is true; an untested backup is worthless. I managed to recover most data from various local backups I had lying around. That's the direction I'm going to go now, with a physical snapshot off-site every now and again. Not perfect, but much less hassle than what I've just been through, and also cheaper.
- globular-toast 6y ago> I use iCloud now. Didn't learn your lesson then, I see.
- leokennis 6y agoYep. I use STACK by https://transip.nl/ https://transip.nl/, which is just a hard drive hosted by someone else that I access via WebDAV or SFTP. If you can’t see the actual JPG/MP4/FLAC files, you can’t be sure they’re actually there and eventually you’ll be burned. Use cheap online storage for an offsite backup, and use any cloud (Apple, Google) in parallel for convenience.