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> Calling a country "Middle Eastern North Korea" in the first sentence isn't really conducive to a nice intellectual discussion on the merits of taking Saudi in
by baybal2 6y ago
> Calling a country "Middle Eastern North Korea" in the first sentence isn't really conducive to a nice intellectual discussion on the merits of taking Saudi investment though.
Calling Saudi kingdom the Middle Eastern North Korea is the best what you can do to conduct a "nice intellectual discussion" you want.
Intellectual discussion is calling things their real names. It is a total intellectual dishonesty, and hypocrisy to pretend it isn't, while trying to have any conversation about Saudi state with a straight face.
- tasogare 6y agoHow are you justifying that term? I see nothing (geographically, politically, culturally, economically, historically, religiously, diplomatically, etc.) that could justify it even in the slightest.
- tokai 6y agoBoth counties are hereditary totalitarian states that kills off political opposition, are top in the world regarding human trafficking, sponsor terrorism, and generally have the worst human rights records.
- tasogare 6y agoThat’s very few elements of comparison, and half of that list is equally applicable to the US, in particular sponsoring terrorism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponso...).
- _x0ti 6y agoSaudi is nothing like North Korea this is just an edge lord comment. They’re completely different in a 100 ways. You can criticize the Saudi state without drawing comparisons that make no sense. “Is the best what you can do?” Really? Coming up with an inaccurate comparison is the best you can do?
- baybal2 6y ago> They’re completely different in a 100 ways. No, they are remarkably similar Effectively a 1 family state, with 1 party system as a decoration — Check The few electoral opportunities are 100% rigged. Whomever wants to self-nominate gets secretly abducted, tortured, killed, and dissolved in potassium hydroxide — Check Omnipresent domestic espionage, and political inquisition — Check Adherence to a completely braindead ideology used as a loyalty litmus test — Check Complete intolerance to any deviation from official political line, and complete lack of any real political figures other than the ruling family — Check Peoples' one, and only way up through the social ladder is through the one party political institute — Check
- rjsw 6y agoThink that is being a bit unfair to North Korea, none of their citizens have carried out terrorist attacks on US soil.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoIntellectual discussion doesn’t require us to minimize Saudi Arabia’s problems. The problem with “Middle Eastern North Korea” is that it drags another emotionally charged topic into the discussion for no real reason. If anyone responds, the comparison makes it sound like they're defending North Korea.
- f6v 6y agoKeep in mind that North Korea hasn’t been bombing anyone on a massive scale in the last 50 years.
- tyingq 6y agoI think the reference is about killing your own citizens on foreign soil.