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Lmao, just like all the businesses that build their platform on top of Facebook APIs only to have those APIs closed down, now Facebook will realize what it's li

by gt565k 6y ago

Lmao, just like all the businesses that build their platform on top of Facebook APIs only to have those APIs closed down, now Facebook will realize what it's like to build your business based on hardware device tracking, only to have manufacturer's like Apple restrict that down. Buh bye facebook. May you rot in hell.

amelius 6y ago
Meanwhile, everybody else is building their business on Apple too. I hate FB like the next guy, but I don't like the idea of Apple playing government.
- Schiendelman 6y ago
  I want government to do for me exactly what Apple just did.
  - amelius 6y ago
    At least give me the choice. Like a switch in the settings screen saying "let Apple police me and others". I would even be ok with it being ON by default.
    - jaywalk 6y ago
      That's... literally what Apple is doing. Facebook is crying because they know that a lot of people will opt out of the tracking when given the choice.
      - amelius 6y ago
        Oops. Yes. But Apple is not applying it consistently. They are still policing us in a lot of different ways too. One of the many examples is that Firefox is forced to use webkit on iOS, and nobody is allowed to have their own web rendering engine in the app store, which goes right against the principles of general purpose computing and having control over your own device. It's nice that Apple has a content-filter for people who are not tech-savvy, or for kids who are not allowed to see certain content, but that filter should be optional.
        jaywalk 6y ago
        Ok, so you want Apple to allow iOS to be completely open. That's obviously not gonna happen.
        amelius 6y ago
        Yes, because it's a slippery slope and I don't want to end up in a programmer's dystopian future.
- Dig1t 6y ago
  In this case I don't think that giving the user a choice over whether they are tracked is playing government. But agree with the general sentiment.
- deleted 6y ago
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Tijdreiziger 6y ago
IIRC, a while ago an internal memo from Zuckerberg leaked in which he detailed that this is why he's investing in Oculus. Zuck sees VR as the next frontier of technology, and he wants to own the platform instead of merely being an app on it.
frongpik 6y ago
Imho, Apple just wants money. FB will agree to pay 15 billions/year to keep tracking enabled, similar to how Google pays Apple to keep their search the default option.
dang 6y ago
Please don't post like this to HN. I'm not saying you owe FB better, but you certainly owe the community better if you're participating here. We want thoughtful, curious conversation that adds new information on interesting things. A comment that starts with "Lmao" and ends with "rot in hell" is not intersecting that space. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

by gt565k 6y ago

amelius 6y ago

Meanwhile, everybody else is building their business on Apple too. I hate FB like the next guy, but I don't like the idea of Apple playing government.

Schiendelman 6y ago
I want government to do for me exactly what Apple just did.
- amelius 6y ago
  At least give me the choice. Like a switch in the settings screen saying "let Apple police me and others". I would even be ok with it being ON by default.
  - jaywalk 6y ago
    That's... literally what Apple is doing. Facebook is crying because they know that a lot of people will opt out of the tracking when given the choice.
    - amelius 6y ago
      Oops. Yes. But Apple is not applying it consistently. They are still policing us in a lot of different ways too. One of the many examples is that Firefox is forced to use webkit on iOS, and nobody is allowed to have their own web rendering engine in the app store, which goes right against the principles of general purpose computing and having control over your own device. It's nice that Apple has a content-filter for people who are not tech-savvy, or for kids who are not allowed to see certain content, but that filter should be optional.
      - jaywalk 6y ago
        Ok, so you want Apple to allow iOS to be completely open. That's obviously not gonna happen.
        amelius 6y ago
        Yes, because it's a slippery slope and I don't want to end up in a programmer's dystopian future.
Dig1t 6y ago
In this case I don't think that giving the user a choice over whether they are tracked is playing government. But agree with the general sentiment.
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Tijdreiziger 6y ago

IIRC, a while ago an internal memo from Zuckerberg leaked in which he detailed that this is why he's investing in Oculus. Zuck sees VR as the next frontier of technology, and he wants to own the platform instead of merely being an app on it.

frongpik 6y ago

Imho, Apple just wants money. FB will agree to pay 15 billions/year to keep tracking enabled, similar to how Google pays Apple to keep their search the default option.

dang 6y ago

Please don't post like this to HN. I'm not saying you owe FB better, but you certainly owe the community better if you're participating here. We want thoughtful, curious conversation that adds new information on interesting things. A comment that starts with "Lmao" and ends with "rot in hell" is not intersecting that space. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.