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Is it uncommon for countries to leave their traitors alive? Saudi Arabia has had public beheadings, it's not unusual for a place like that to murder a guy who w

Is it uncommon for countries to leave their traitors alive? Saudi Arabia has had public beheadings, it's not unusual for a place like that to murder a guy who was sitting in the USA and publishing the talking points he was getting from Qatar. The idea that he was 100% a noble crusading journalist is pure propaganda. This whole story is artificially amplified. Has everyone woken up and suddenly learned what punishments in Saudi Arabia are like? Take for instance Chelsea Manning - someone who made the US government look bad by leaking diplomatic cables. Torture, solitary confinement, all sorts of inhumane conditions. Is it that much of a stretch to see a monarchy like Saudi Arabia chopping up their guy for making them look bad? Not really. It's what you would expect in a place like that. It's always been that way, and everyone has known about it. To pretend as if it's unexpected is quite insincere and reeks of some alternative agenda. The way Khashoggi is presented to the public as some kind of hero is really telling.

Darmody 6y ago
He's seen like a "hero" not because what he did but because what they did to him. He could've been the worst journalist in the world. That's no excuse to butcher him.
- throwawaybchr 6y ago
  What is the reason given for treating Chelsea Manning the way she was treated by the Obama administration?
  - Darmody 6y ago
    As far as I know, Chelsea wasn't cut to pieces alive. And even if they did, that's not an excuse to what SA did.
    - throwawaybchr 6y ago
      Is this the only instance in recent history where a traitor has been tortured and/or killed? It's the only one everyone is talking about. The reason for that is for the common folk to develop a bias. A well deserved bias, but a manufactured one nonetheless.
SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
Not even Saudi Arabia is arguing that this was a normal or reasonable punishment within their justice system. They prosecuted everyone involved in Khashoggi's murder (or, well, everyone who they say was involved) and convicted eight of them.
- throwawaybchr 6y ago
  If the story didn't blow up they would never have done it. My point remains. There are conspiracies about Russia feeding talking points to members of the US government and that those who are doing the bidding of Russia should be tried for treason. This is not some fringe point of view you read on some imageboard on the internet, this is that has been airing on American news tv regularly over the past 4 years. You don't get banned on twitter for saying this, you don't get banned on Facebook for saying this. This is a very popular thing to say and believe in America. The Saudis simply followed through with the same principle, and it's being presented as some kind of heinous outrage when it's essentially what's being proposed in the USA. At best one could argue the method of killing, and if we're there my point is pretty much made. They followed their criminal justice system. They're doing a song and dance now because it got blown up.
- jessaustin 6y ago
  No one was executed for this "crime". They'll spend some time in some facility, but they'll get out richer men with IOUs from HoS.
sofixa 6y ago
Just because Saudi Arabia acts barbarically within its own borders ( and they're not alone in that) doesn't mean that chopping up a dissidents in an embassy in a foreign country is somehow OK or acceptable.

Darmody 6y ago

He's seen like a "hero" not because what he did but because what they did to him. He could've been the worst journalist in the world. That's no excuse to butcher him.

throwawaybchr 6y ago
What is the reason given for treating Chelsea Manning the way she was treated by the Obama administration?
- Darmody 6y ago
  As far as I know, Chelsea wasn't cut to pieces alive. And even if they did, that's not an excuse to what SA did.
  - throwawaybchr 6y ago
    Is this the only instance in recent history where a traitor has been tortured and/or killed? It's the only one everyone is talking about. The reason for that is for the common folk to develop a bias. A well deserved bias, but a manufactured one nonetheless.

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago

Not even Saudi Arabia is arguing that this was a normal or reasonable punishment within their justice system. They prosecuted everyone involved in Khashoggi's murder (or, well, everyone who they say was involved) and convicted eight of them.

throwawaybchr 6y ago
If the story didn't blow up they would never have done it. My point remains. There are conspiracies about Russia feeding talking points to members of the US government and that those who are doing the bidding of Russia should be tried for treason. This is not some fringe point of view you read on some imageboard on the internet, this is that has been airing on American news tv regularly over the past 4 years. You don't get banned on twitter for saying this, you don't get banned on Facebook for saying this. This is a very popular thing to say and believe in America. The Saudis simply followed through with the same principle, and it's being presented as some kind of heinous outrage when it's essentially what's being proposed in the USA. At best one could argue the method of killing, and if we're there my point is pretty much made. They followed their criminal justice system. They're doing a song and dance now because it got blown up.
jessaustin 6y ago
No one was executed for this "crime". They'll spend some time in some facility, but they'll get out richer men with IOUs from HoS.

sofixa 6y ago

Just because Saudi Arabia acts barbarically within its own borders ( and they're not alone in that) doesn't mean that chopping up a dissidents in an embassy in a foreign country is somehow OK or acceptable.