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I'm not sure on the "very specific" part. We use some general, non-specific signs ("OK", "good" [thumbs up, depending on your cultural background and situation]

I'm not sure on the "very specific" part. We use some general, non-specific signs ("OK", "good" [thumbs up, depending on your cultural background and situation]). We, the hearing community in my country (UK), use gestures too of course. Could you give a few examples of signs hearing people use where you are that you consider "very specific"?

sandworm101 6y ago
>>> where you are that you consider "very specific"? Flipping the bird. Pointing at things. Hand signals when driving (more a thing for motorcyclists). Then there are plenty of job-specific things. Crane operators have their own system of very specific hand gestures for directing crane operations. The military has a host of standardized gestures. DJs/audio techs/musicians have a set for talking in loud environments. https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/safety_haz/materials_handling/signals.html https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/safety_haz/materials_handlin... https://armynavyoutdoors.com/blog/learn-military-hand-signals/ https://armynavyoutdoors.com/blog/learn-military-hand-signal... The little girl in this vid managed to convey a very specific meaning to a passing ship using only a gesture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETrWMvicKps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETrWMvicKps
- myself248 6y ago
  > The little girl in this vid managed to convey a very specific meaning to a passing ship using only a gesture. And it's SO specific that just reading that sentence, I knew exactly which meaning you meant, and which gesture. (Clicking the link to confirm was totally worth it though.) I've been on both ends of that gesture and it's always a hoot. > DJs/audio techs/musicians have a set for talking in loud environments. Whoah, really? I've improvised plenty, but I'm super curious if there's a standard set. You can always figure out "make louder", "make quieter", point at objects, mimic certain instruments. But it'd be nice to have more vocabulary beyond that.
  - sandworm101 6y ago
    https://blog.sonicbids.com/8-jam-session-hand-signals-musicians https://blog.sonicbids.com/8-jam-session-hand-signals-musici... http://www.preservationsound.com/2010/09/microphone-hand-signals/ http://www.preservationsound.com/2010/09/microphone-hand-sig... https://www.cybercollege.com/hand_sigs.htm https://www.cybercollege.com/hand_sigs.htm And any orchestra can follow a conductor, baton or not.
    - myself248 6y ago
      Very cool, thank you! Also re-reading this thread, I thought of the hand signals that every driver must learn in case their electrical turn signals go out, which are the same as bicyclist signals. Specific to the point of being enshrined in law.
- pbhjpbhj 6y ago
  Cool, thanks. I don't think "flipping the bird" is specific, it's either "I'm a jerk" or "I'm angry [with you]" but they both seem pretty wide ranging. Pointing is really none specific, do you want it, want to look at it, want someone else to hold it, etc.. Military and crane operator signs seem like they're limited sign languages. Excellent example. Driving is a good one, but it's 3 specific signs, and then pointing. I'm often annoyed that other drivers don't know BSL! Thanks for illustrating the point, very helpful.
bluGill 6y ago
Depends on context. A lot of workplaces have specific signs for use when hearing protection is worn: things like turn the machine off now, or I'm good to go. Airport ground control has a whole set of signs. Traffic cops also have their signs that everyone knows.

sandworm101 6y ago

>>> where you are that you consider "very specific"? Flipping the bird. Pointing at things. Hand signals when driving (more a thing for motorcyclists). Then there are plenty of job-specific things. Crane operators have their own system of very specific hand gestures for directing crane operations. The military has a host of standardized gestures. DJs/audio techs/musicians have a set for talking in loud environments. https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/safety_haz/materials_handling/signals.html https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/safety_haz/materials_handlin... https://armynavyoutdoors.com/blog/learn-military-hand-signals/ https://armynavyoutdoors.com/blog/learn-military-hand-signal... The little girl in this vid managed to convey a very specific meaning to a passing ship using only a gesture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETrWMvicKps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETrWMvicKps

myself248 6y ago
> The little girl in this vid managed to convey a very specific meaning to a passing ship using only a gesture. And it's SO specific that just reading that sentence, I knew exactly which meaning you meant, and which gesture. (Clicking the link to confirm was totally worth it though.) I've been on both ends of that gesture and it's always a hoot. > DJs/audio techs/musicians have a set for talking in loud environments. Whoah, really? I've improvised plenty, but I'm super curious if there's a standard set. You can always figure out "make louder", "make quieter", point at objects, mimic certain instruments. But it'd be nice to have more vocabulary beyond that.
- sandworm101 6y ago
  https://blog.sonicbids.com/8-jam-session-hand-signals-musicians https://blog.sonicbids.com/8-jam-session-hand-signals-musici... http://www.preservationsound.com/2010/09/microphone-hand-signals/ http://www.preservationsound.com/2010/09/microphone-hand-sig... https://www.cybercollege.com/hand_sigs.htm https://www.cybercollege.com/hand_sigs.htm And any orchestra can follow a conductor, baton or not.
  - myself248 6y ago
    Very cool, thank you! Also re-reading this thread, I thought of the hand signals that every driver must learn in case their electrical turn signals go out, which are the same as bicyclist signals. Specific to the point of being enshrined in law.
pbhjpbhj 6y ago
Cool, thanks. I don't think "flipping the bird" is specific, it's either "I'm a jerk" or "I'm angry [with you]" but they both seem pretty wide ranging. Pointing is really none specific, do you want it, want to look at it, want someone else to hold it, etc.. Military and crane operator signs seem like they're limited sign languages. Excellent example. Driving is a good one, but it's 3 specific signs, and then pointing. I'm often annoyed that other drivers don't know BSL! Thanks for illustrating the point, very helpful.

bluGill 6y ago

Depends on context. A lot of workplaces have specific signs for use when hearing protection is worn: things like turn the machine off now, or I'm good to go. Airport ground control has a whole set of signs. Traffic cops also have their signs that everyone knows.