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Apple’s is about native apps you run on devices. Apple is as committed to native apps — on the desktop, tablet, and handheld — as it has ever been. Google’s fr

by jerrya 15y ago

Apple’s is about native apps you run on devices. Apple is as committed to native apps — on the desktop, tablet, and handheld — as it has ever been. Google’s frame is the browser window. Apple’s frame is the screen. I don't see this conclusion following from his premise. Perhaps there was more in the keynote that he didn't include. Or maybe I am unimaginative and think installing native apps on all of the devices I use regardless of who owns them, or where they are located, or where my discs are is harder than installing a browser based web app or using an HTML5 website.

cageface 15y ago
I don't think this follows either. Google provides many native apps on Android. The real difference is that cloud-based computing is natural for Google but a fundamental shift for Apple.
- esrauch 15y ago
  Except that Android app sales don't pay out to Google, they pay out to Verizon whereas iPhone app sales pay out to Apple. Google does support a ton of native apps (GMail, Calendar, Places, Goggles, Latitude, Maps, etc) but their strategy going forward seems to try to push these things from apps into the browser, spending a ton of time supporting the mobile browser version of all of these things (except for Goggles).
  - hexix 15y ago
    I've never heard that before. I think Google gets the money. Verizon probably gets a cut just for the carrier billing option when used. I just did a search and couldn't find anything saying Verizon gets the money for android app payments. Also I can't think of a single Google Android app that has been discontinued and replaced with a web version. I think you're getting confused about google also offering mobile web versions for platforms they can't get their apps on. They've even said they'd like to offer a better maps app for iPhone but can't.
    - ralfd 15y ago
      This was in October 2008: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-market-now-available-for-users.html http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-marke... -------------------------------- "Developers will get 70% of the revenue from each purchase; the remaining amount goes to carriers and billing settlement fees — Google does not take a percentage. We believe this revenue model creates a fair and positive experience for users, developers, and carriers," notes Eric Chu. -------------------------------- This statement was at that time interpreted, that Google is buying marketshare from the carriers. I don't know if the sentence "Google does not take a persentage" still stands and how the transactions fee is splitted today.
      - esrauch 15y ago
        An issue of wired I think 2 months ago claimed that the current payout was 30% to Verizon and 70% to the developer with Google getting no cut from app sales. Obviously their information could have been dated as well.

by jerrya 15y ago

cageface 15y ago

I don't think this follows either. Google provides many native apps on Android. The real difference is that cloud-based computing is natural for Google but a fundamental shift for Apple.

esrauch 15y ago
Except that Android app sales don't pay out to Google, they pay out to Verizon whereas iPhone app sales pay out to Apple. Google does support a ton of native apps (GMail, Calendar, Places, Goggles, Latitude, Maps, etc) but their strategy going forward seems to try to push these things from apps into the browser, spending a ton of time supporting the mobile browser version of all of these things (except for Goggles).
- hexix 15y ago
  I've never heard that before. I think Google gets the money. Verizon probably gets a cut just for the carrier billing option when used. I just did a search and couldn't find anything saying Verizon gets the money for android app payments. Also I can't think of a single Google Android app that has been discontinued and replaced with a web version. I think you're getting confused about google also offering mobile web versions for platforms they can't get their apps on. They've even said they'd like to offer a better maps app for iPhone but can't.
  - ralfd 15y ago
    This was in October 2008: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-market-now-available-for-users.html http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-marke... -------------------------------- "Developers will get 70% of the revenue from each purchase; the remaining amount goes to carriers and billing settlement fees — Google does not take a percentage. We believe this revenue model creates a fair and positive experience for users, developers, and carriers," notes Eric Chu. -------------------------------- This statement was at that time interpreted, that Google is buying marketshare from the carriers. I don't know if the sentence "Google does not take a persentage" still stands and how the transactions fee is splitted today.
    - esrauch 15y ago
      An issue of wired I think 2 months ago claimed that the current payout was 30% to Verizon and 70% to the developer with Google getting no cut from app sales. Obviously their information could have been dated as well.